What was Zimmerman hunting?

[nogods]

"f**king coons" remark by Zimmerman in 911 call shows he was not a racists but instead was just out hunting raccoons getting into the neighborhood garbage cans.


http://youtu.be/vNI5CA5jijw

Oops there it is!

[joe d.]

In the Jim Crow days...history has shown how whites...in the deep south, would have a frenzy, or better known as" lynch mobs" ...looking to hang a negroe....for any slight accusation.....now blacks today...have their own style of 'LYNCH MOBS', PROTESTS, CAUCAUS'.. where facts are not transparent, to satisfy their hunger for JUSTICE?? .. OR REVENGE...MY HOW WE AS A CIVILIZATION..beit of any ethnic group...HAS EVOLVED!

[Frank Broughton]

sad, ain't it Joe? seriously sad.

[ILOVEDNY]

"f**king coons" remark by Zimmerman in 911 call shows he was not a racists but instead was just out hunting raccoons getting into the neighborhood garbage cans.

Oops there it is!
Little behind the times bucko.
An audio expert has study the tapes.
Now go back and listen.
He says ****ing Punks.

[nogods]

Little behind the times bucko.
An audio expert has study the tapes.
Now go back and listen.
He says ****ing Punks.

We knew your were dumb, now we know you are deaf. how's your eyesight?

Real audio experts (not just his online friend) have determined he said coons.

Too late to spin this one. Caught on tape and all that.

[WNYresident]

Where can we listen to the tapes and hear this ourselves?

[Bringthetruth]

Where can we listen to the tapes and hear this ourselves?

Just listen to the clip above.

But earlier he says at the 1:33 min mark the a** holes always get away.

Listen to the video above at the 1:51 min mark and tell me what derogatory ,mark you think he says.

[Bringthetruth]

Former Fla. Gov. Jeb Bush: Self-defense law he signed doesn’t cover Trayvon Martin’s death



By Associated Press, Published: March 23

ARLINGTON, Texas — Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush says the “Stand Your Ground” law he signed shouldn’t protect a neighborhood watch captain who hasn’t been arrested in the shooting death of an unarmed teenager.

Bush spoke Friday at the University of Texas at Arlington, just outside Dallas. He told reporters afterward that the Florida law doesn’t apply in the incident that left 17-year-old Trayvon Martin dead.


He said, “Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn’t mean chase after somebody who’s turned their back.”

The Dallas Morning News reported (http://dallasne.ws/GWMtOK ) that Bush, who signed the law in 2005, called Martin’s death a tragedy.

George Zimmerman shot and killed Martin in Sanford, Fla., in February. Martin was walking back to the home of his father’s fiancée.

Zimmerman says he acted in self-defense.

___

Information from: The Dallas Morning News, http://www.dallasnews.com

Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

[ILOVEDNY]

Where can we listen to the tapes and hear this ourselves?
Use the clip above Res.
Start at 2:40 where they repeat the whisper.
He says ****ing Punks.

[ILOVEDNY]

We knew your were dumb, now we know you are deaf. how's your eyesight?

Real audio experts (not just his online friend) have determined he said coons.

Too late to spin this one. Caught on tape and all that.
Really?
Current TV's Young Turks are experts?
I'll ask rational posters what they hear.
2:40 from your clip.

[Bringthetruth]

Just listen to the clip above.

But earlier he says at the 1:33 min mark the a** holes always get away.

Listen to the video above at the 1:51 min mark and tell me what derogatory ,mark you think he says.

He used the term ******** coons at the 1:51 mark can't deny this one, not even the racist here.

[Dougles]

Really?
Current TV's Young Turks are experts?
I'll ask rational posters what they hear.
2:40 from your clip.

The young turks are still around? I thought they died off with the other bigots on Air America.

[Dougles]

He used the term ******** coons at the 1:51 mark can't deny this one, not even the racist here.

Thank you for admitting you are a racist... do you feel better now?

[joe d.]

Thank you for admitting you are a racist... do you feel better now?
ADMITTING...you have a problem.... .is the first step in solving it...congratulations Bringdatruth!!:p

[therising]

OK, I'm suddenly bored with this story.

[ILOVEDNY]

OK, I'm suddenly bored with this story.

Translation:
I'm getting my ass kicked here so time to feign boredom.
I heard you been hanging on this site lately.
https://twitter.com/#!/KillZimmerman

[therising]

Translation:
I'm getting my ass kicked here so time to feign boredom.
I heard you been hanging on this site lately.
https://twitter.com/#!/KillZimmerman

Keep trying.
Unlike you, I don't wish this turns out either way. I know you're praying the black kid winds up being guilty. Me, not so much.

[Yankeefan2009]

That's pretty sad that you people think it's ok for someone like Spike Lee to publicly tweet someones address and put a bounty on a guys head. How far have we really come in the past 100 years? Apparently lynching is still allowed, but just as long as the guy is not a minority.

YEAH! GET EM! *rollyeyes*

[therising]

That's pretty sad that you people think it's ok for someone like Spike Lee to publicly tweet someones address and put a bounty on a guys head. How far have we really come in the past 100 years? Apparently lynching is still allowed, but just as long as the guy is not a minority.

YEAH! GET EM! *rollyeyes*

I don't think anyone here said that what Spike Lee did was acceptable. Personally, I think it was despicable.

[ILOVEDNY]

I don't think anyone here said that what Spike Lee did was acceptable. Personally, I think it was despicable.
Yet what Spike Lee did was really the point some of us were trying to make.

We have a legal process in this country.
That process has been followed and in this case further scrutinized.
The Special Prosecuter has stated she will either issue a decision or Impanel a Grand jury by April 10th.

But the Race Baiters saw an opportunity.
And like all mobs, it's having some negative repercussions.
As predicted.

[wnyerlaughs]

I don't think anyone here said that what Spike Lee did was acceptable. Personally, I think it was despicable.

the post-racial president, barry obama, implicitly (as opposted to explicity) endorsed making this a RACIAL issue by saying, EXPLICITLY, "if i had a son, he'd llook like trayvon". THAT is as racially motivated as anything is. and , actually, barry is not even correct on that: due to his own genetic makeup, an obama son could/would possibly be mulato, and loom more like Zimmerman than Martin. (side note..how many times have you heard barry refer to martin as "the boy". ?

i havent googled the town or the community, and not intending to, but if its a gated community, isn't there, well, GATES, security gates? what was the kid doing there ? and, it's florida, late winter, why have a hoody pulled up? while strolling in a gated community? I don't know, just asking.

ill agree that the police video doesntt look like zimmerman was injured, BUT they had said EMT's were at the scene, so he may have been cleaned up there. That's a maybe..but suddenly the trayvon family is legal experts saying what they DONT see in the video.

Spike Lee's action was the 21st century version of putting a burning corss on someones front yard. He thought he was doing WHO a faor? society? the bounty hunters? Lee had an INTENT. What if that really WAS zimmermans home? and he was hunted down? Lee would have been an accomplice.

But..for sure, you all have to know that the REAL reason this is in the news, is because the Sandra Fluke fraud died down so fast...and the media needs SOMETHING else as a distraction to eat up news time. They want to keep Romney momentum and endorsements as second hand news, and the ywant to keep the obamacare/Supreme court fiasco (so far) out of the nes..or at least BURIED somewhere else.

MSNBC has not just tried and convicted zimmerman, but is continually vilifying the guy to make sure this stays a RACE issue. Zimmerman is hispanic..with a white last name. "oh goody..we can make this look racial". But..mmm. nobod yasks what the kid was doing, (on a school night?), with hood up, in a private gated community ? Maybye zimmeman is lying..maybe he is. I can grant that..BUT..why does no one ask "what was the kid doingthere in the first place?. Maybe no one wants to know...

The post racial president should come out and explicitly state now that "we need to down down the racial tensions". THAT would be leadership...but all barry is about is leading one segment of the population against another.

barry's silence now is as bad as spike lee's tweet. BArry should NEVER hae said "a son would look like me" but he said it with a purpose...and the next thing is: rallies...around the nation? niagara falls vigil? this stuff is right out of DNC headquarters,,and filtered out to their local ACORN wannabees.

[therising]

the post-racial president, barry obama, implicitly (as opposted to explicity) endorsed making this a RACIAL issue by saying, EXPLICITLY, "if i had a son, he'd llook like trayvon". THAT is as racially motivated as anything is.

Do you actually believe that this issue has nothing to do with race? If Treyvon Martin was an Irish red-head kid with freckles, do you think Zimmerman would have followed him down the street and called the cops? Be honest with yourself. Don't just say "yeah, its very possible."


and , actually, barry is not even correct on that: due to his own genetic makeup, an obama son could/would possibly be mulato, and loom more like Zimmerman than Martin. (side note..how many times have you heard barry refer to martin as "the boy". ?

Now, you're just talking nonsense.


i havent googled the town or the community, and not intending to, but if its a gated community, isn't there, well, GATES, security gates? what was the kid doing there ? and, it's florida, late winter, why have a hoody pulled up? while strolling in a gated community? I don't know, just asking.
Go ahead, blame the kid who got shot. Shouldn't have been there in the first place even if he was doing nothing wrong.


ill agree that the police video doesntt look like zimmerman was injured, BUT they had said EMT's were at the scene, so he may have been cleaned up there. That's a maybe..but suddenly the trayvon family is legal experts saying what they DONT see in the video.
I don't understand what the big deal is about the video either. True, he would have had time to get cleaned up.


Spike Lee's action was the 21st century version of putting a burning corss on someones front yard. He thought he was doing WHO a faor? society? the bounty hunters? Lee had an INTENT. What if that really WAS zimmermans home? and he was hunted down? Lee would have been an accomplice.

I agree.


But..for sure, you all have to know that the REAL reason this is in the news, is because the Sandra Fluke fraud died down so fast...and the media needs SOMETHING else as a distraction to eat up news time. They want to keep Romney momentum and endorsements as second hand news, and the ywant to keep the obamacare/Supreme court fiasco (so far) out of the nes..or at least BURIED somewhere else.

It's a lame ass excuse to blame the liberal media for everything. But, if it makes you feel better..........

[Dougles]

It's a lame ass excuse to blame the liberal media for everything. But, if it makes you feel better..........

I'm not going to blame the media, either side. But don't you think that we have NEVER seen a case like this take up so much TV time and cast so much speculation? Besides OJ, I can't think of another case that has brought so much attention and so much hate and tension.

But I'm going to say now, if Zimmerman is arrested, he will not be convicted, the media has spent so much time pejudicing the jury pool that it will be hard to find a jury. And if one is found, all it will take is 1 white or hispanic person who has felt their race attacked to find the jury hung. It will be like OJ for all the non blacks.

[joe d.]

"Spike Lee's action was the 21st century version of putting a burning corss on someones front yard. He thought he was doing WHO a faor? society? the bounty hunters? Lee had an INTENT. What if that really WAS zimmermans home? and he was hunted down? Lee would have been an accomplice."
SPIKE LEE'S ACTIONS...were equivalent to the KKK Grand Wizards' ACTIONS of creating a lynch mob...I hope in any reprecussions...that LEE gets sued by the innocent victims whose only fault was name similarity...imagine if the racial makeup here was reversed...THE FBI, and every other govt agency... would be falling over themselves prosecute this bigotted idiot!!

[joe d.]

http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/163271/37/Arrest-made-in-Butlers-death
Not much outrage here...by mobs, protests, Jesse Jackson inciting speeches...must be...its a black on black crime...

[Bringthetruth]

, it's florida, late winter, why have a hoody pulled up? while strolling in a gated community? I don't know, just asking.
.

Res it was actually RAINING that night..

[FMD]

If this case is a hate crine, then so is this one: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp

However, since the newsom case wasnt declared a hate crime, as most black on white crimes arent, i am gonna say this zimmernan case is also not a hate crime. Its a double edged sword which black folk refuse to address cause they feel they are somehow special. But the bitch when their called on it

[WNYresident]

Res it was actually RAINING that night..

raining or not you or I weren't there.

He should not have shot him. When he was on the phone with 911 he was told not to follow. He was not in danger at that time. No one else was in danger at that time either. Correct?

I think it's wrong that the media is using old photos making the situation look like it was a young kid although he was young adult. That would be like using charley manson's highschool year book photo versus a photo of him once he was in the slammer for 15 years... I'm not comparing the young man and manson. I'm only using that as an example. When this was first in the news I thought a young kid was shot from the photos that were used. Either way I don't believe the shooter was in danger when he was on the phone with the police.

[Bringthetruth]

Sorry Res I meant to address that comment to Wnylaughs.

I'm on the side of bring this guy Zimmermann to justice.

In the video , you notice none of the officers with gloves on ?

This guy Zimmermann was supposed to have been bleeding.

Officers don't risk their lives with coming in contact with blood knowing those in their custody could have HIV

[ILOVEDNY]

Sorry Res I meant to address that comment to Wnylaughs.

I'm on the side of railroading this guy Zimmermann to justice.

In the video , you notice none of the officers with gloves on ?

This guy Zimmermann was supposed to have been bleeding.

Officers don't risk their lives with coming in contact with blood knowing those in their custody could have HIV
Even MSLSD had to walk back the claims of "no injury."
But that doesn't matter to BTT and the "Crucify Him" crowd.
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[Bringthetruth]

I'm not in the crucify crowd i'm in the he should be in custody crowd awaiting a trail.

[nogods]

White guy with a gun starts chasing after and harassing a black kid armed with skittles and tea.

Black kid fights black fearing for his life (standing his ground)

White guy starts getting his butt kicked by black kid so he shoots the black kid.

White guy becomes poster boy for Fox News and gunuts.

One of the reasons I got a pistol permit was to protect myself from gunuts like Zimmerman.

[wnyerlaughs]

White guy with a gun starts chasing after and harassing a black kid armed with skittles and tea.

Black kid fights black fearing for his life (standing his ground)

White guy starts getting his butt kicked by black kid so he shoots the black kid.

White guy becomes poster boy for Fox News and gunuts.

One of the reasons I got a pistol permit was to protect myself from gunuts like Zimmerman.

Hispanic guy. Get your facts straight. If zimmernan is white, then obama is not the first black president...obama is white also.

Trayvon martin is the poster child for msnbc. its almost 24/7,, PLUS they have their people like al sharpton "representing" for the family?

Get your facts straight: hispanic guy.

if i had a son who was hispanic, he'd look like zimmerman.

[wnyerlaughs]

Where can we listen to the tapes and hear this ourselves?

id bet the EMT techs on the site who tended to GZ would have the best insights of all. there must be reason wh their voices are silent for now. oh ..maybe its called, due process. Im surprised the new black panthers havent tracked them down yet.

[WNYresident]

Hispanic guy. Get your facts straight. If zimmernan is white, then obama is not the first black president...obama is white also.

Trayvon martin is the poster child for msnbc. its almost 24/7,, PLUS they have their people like al sharpton "representing" for the family?

Get your facts straight: hispanic guy.

if i had a son who was hispanic, he'd look like zimmerman.

You see it too...

SO where is the cut off point of color?

Just curious... if someone from mexico who was light skinned and here illegally was in zimmerman's place would the reaction be the same in the media?

I think they should state someone's nationality (race) before the color of their skin...

If someone took every "white" killer and broke it into actual race I wonder what it would be... Then break that up between USA Citizen/illegal per race....

[Bringthetruth]

Hispanic guy. Get your facts straight. If zimmernan is white, then obama is not the first black president...obama is white also.

Trayvon martin is the poster child for msnbc. its almost 24/7,, PLUS they have their people like al sharpton "representing" for the family?

Get your facts straight: hispanic guy.

if i had a son who was hispanic, he'd look like zimmerman.

HA HA You guys crack me up seriously.

Zimmermann has a WHITE FATHER and PERUVIAN MOTHER . Come on now ,lets tell the truth.


President Obama has a black father and his mother is white, and you all call him a BLACK MAN

The father nationality is how most identify a mans offspring today.


WHY DO YOU THINK HIS LAST NAME IS ZIMMERMANN ?

Never heard of an Hispanic with this last name unless they married into it.

[nogods]

Hispanic guy. Get your facts straight. If zimmernan is white, then obama is not the first black president...obama is white also.

Trayvon martin is the poster child for msnbc. its almost 24/7,, PLUS they have their people like al sharpton "representing" for the family?

Get your facts straight: hispanic guy.

if i had a son who was hispanic, he'd look like zimmerman.

Only an ignorant person would think Hispanic was a race.

We've been over this. Hispanic is like Polish or Italian or German - it's an an ethnicity, it is not a race.

Now you aren't as ignorant as you were when you woke up this morning.

Bill Handle, the award wining comedic radio talk show host in LA is a white Hispanic Jew. Only one of those describes his race. Here's a clue for you: it ain't Hispanic or Jew.

[Yankeefan2009]

Zimmerman is hispanic, not white. Obama is technically Mullatto. Neither one of them are white by conventional standards of the word. I see a few people in here trying to bend the rules and have it both ways.

[nogods]

Zimmerman is hispanic, not white. Obama is technically Mullatto. Neither one of them are white by conventional standards of the word. I see a few people in here trying to bend the rules and have it both ways.

As I said, only an ignorant person would think Hispanic was a race. Here's your sign.

[Yankeefan2009]

As I said, only an ignorant person would think Hispanic was a race. Here's your sign.

Only an ignorant person would think that hispanics are white. They're hispanics. Here's your sign.

Try walking into Latina's market on delaware and telling the people their that they're white. Let me know how that goes.

[nogods]

Only an ignorant person would think that hispanics are white. They're hispanics. Here's your sign.

Try walking into Latina's market on delaware and telling the people their that they're white. Let me know how that goes.

Why do insist on proving evolution isn't for everyone, one post at a time?




Why doesn't the census include Hispanic as a race?

The census does it right! Hispanic is NOT a race. There are many races within the Latino community, including White, Black, Native Indian, and even Asian. Some segments, like the Cuban community, show very few mixed-race individuals. In fact, Cubans exhibit a race discrimination behavior within their community that is similar to that of the general market. Other groups, like Puerto Ricans, are very mixed. Argentineans are mostly White and some Latin American countries, including Mexico, have a strong Native Indian background.

Hispanic Research Inc. (http://www.hispanicresearch.com/hispanic-market-data/faq/87-why-doesnt-the-census-include-hispanic-as-a-race)

[300miles]

from 911 call:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy--is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

[therising]

WTF difference does it make? Why are you two arguing over something so moronic?

[Dougles]

HA HA You guys crack me up seriously.

Zimmermann has a WHITE FATHER and PERUVIAN MOTHER . Come on now ,lets tell the truth.


President Obama has a black father and his mother is white, and you all call him a BLACK MAN

The father nationality is how most identify a mans offspring today.


WHY DO YOU THINK HIS LAST NAME IS ZIMMERMANN ?

Never heard of an Hispanic with this last name unless they married into it.

Wow you are a sexist and hate women don't you?

[Frank Broughton]

I don't think anyone here said that what Spike Lee did was acceptable. Personally, I think it was despicable.

... and on that I do believe you.

[Frank Broughton]

naw.... the media is not doing anything to change the truth of this story: http://www.nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/04/nbc-investigating-segment-on-zimmerman-call.html?imw=Y

[ILOVEDNY]

CNN has a new enhancement:

Sanford, Florida (CNN) -- George Zimmerman told his lawyers that he whispered "punks," not a racial slur, in the moments before he shot Trayvon Martin, his attorneys told CNN on Thursday.

Some people interpreted the police recording of Zimmerman's call to 911 as evidence the fatal shooting was racially motivated.

Zimmerman attorneys Hal Ulrig and Craig Sonner told CNN their client told them that he said, "F---ing punks."

Forensic audio expert Tom Owen, who analyzed 911 recordings, agreed the garbled word that raised controversy was "punks," not the racial slur some people said they heard

When Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used a computer application to remove cell phone interference, the word became clearer, he said. After discussions with linguists, he said he became convinced that Zimmerman said "punks."


And Owens is the expert who claims Zimmerman is not the one screaming on the 911 call.

[Mindcrime]

...Forensic audio expert Tom Owen, who analyzed 911 recordings, agreed the garbled word that raised controversy was "punks," not the racial slur some people said they heard

When Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used a computer application to remove cell phone interference, the word became clearer, he said. After discussions with linguists, he said he became convinced that Zimmerman said "punks..."
Which flies in the face of Zimmerman's friend, who insisted that Zimmerman used the word "goons," and tried to convince us it was some kind of term of endearment.

[300miles]

Which flies in the face of Zimmerman's friend, who insisted that Zimmerman used the word "goons," and tried to convince us it was some kind of term of endearment.
Wait, so the networks need 4 forensic experts to figure out what he was saying (only after incorrectly stating he used a racial slur), but you're holding Zimmerman's friend accountable for stating it was "goon"?? Who should be held accountable here? If anything the friend was more accurate than the news was.

[nogods]

Wait, so the networks need 4 forensic experts to figure out what he was saying (only after incorrectly stating he used a racial slur), but you're holding Zimmerman's friend accountable for stating it was "goon"?? Who should be held accountable here? If anything the friend was more accurate than the news was.

right, cause "goon" sounds so much more like "punk" than it sounds like "coon."

So it turns out his friend wasn't speaking from a position of knowledge.

More importantly, what the hell is Zimmerman's lawyer doing telling CNN what his client told him? The guy should look up the meaning of "waiver."

[ILOVEDNY]

It was just a tech boo boo.
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[WNYresident]

I do not listen to Rush regularly. I did listen to him sunday while in a car. He brought up how NBC edited the 911 call to make it sound racist.

[Yankeefan2009]

I am so sick of hearing about this. It's worse than OJ.

[Frank Broughton]

I am so sick of hearing about this. It's worse than OJ.

I hear ya!

[Mindcrime]

I am so sick of hearing about this. It's worse than OJ.If only the police had arrested this man back when they were supposed to, you'd have never heard of it.

[ILOVEDNY]

Keep fanning the flames.

Sanford police car shot near Trayvon Martin scene.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Sanford-police-car-shot-near-Trayvon-Martin-scene/-/1637132/10396904/-/j1ihog/-/index.html

[WNYresident]

If only the police had arrested this man back when they were supposed to, you'd have never heard of it.

So mind crime... go read the new thread I started. I would like to hear your opinion about BNC editing the 911 call to make it sound racist..

[Dougles]

If only the police had arrested this man back when they were supposed to, you'd have never heard of it.

They did arrest him... did you miss the video's of him in handcuffs in the police station? Do you know what "under arrest" means?

[Frank Broughton]

They did arrest him... did you miss the video's of him in handcuffs in the police station? Do you know what "under arrest" means?

Good observation Doug!