Jesus was...

[LHardy]

As we all have read or heard from those in the Obama support group.

"Jesus was a community activist and Polit was a Govenor."

Making the obvoius relationship claim between Obama and Sarah Palin.

Forget for a moment that this is coming from the party that has a declared war against the meer mention of God in government and schools.
Our science isn't allowed to theorize the existance of a demensional existence for which they lack the knowlege to find.

Yet here the Obamites are bending and para-phrasing historic biblical facts. For a political slogan.

Which is a very wrong thing to do with a religion and belief. Specifically when you're the Democrat left that scorns those belief systems.

Unless you're an abortion rights believing Christian. Then you're sorta ok, but they mock you to your face. You don't go all the way!

Yet the truth is that Jesus was a carpenter and Pilot was an Elite Roman Politcian.

To further give fits to those who believe! -Obamites-

Jesus is excepted to be God made man by the Christian and Catholic faiths. Hence the Son of God. God being of no gender; giving Jesus too be the representation of man and woman here on earth.

Polit was no more and no less than what he was.
A man of the Roman political class.

I see a much differant picture than that being painted by Obamites.

[Dumbfounded]

Jesus would have told idiot parents to "teach the fruit of thy loins in thy dwelling and in places where you worship my Father, but leave mine gospels out of dwellings of learning," something like that.

[mesue]

Jesus would have told idiot parents to "teach the fruit of thy loins in thy dwelling and in places where you worship my Father, but leave mine gospels out of dwellings of learning," something like that.
Coming from the guy that hates Jesus.

[Steiny]

Jewish

[Mary3]

"Jesus was a community activist and Polit was a Govenor."

Why did Sarah cut funding in Alaska for special needs children?

Sarah is full of crap and you know it.

[Surfing USA]

"Jesus was a community activist and Polit was a Govenor."

Why did Sarah cut funding in Alaska for special needs children?

Sarah is full of crap and you know it.
Mary, you really should check the legitimacy of the Palin email smears you receive prior to posting them in forums as fact.

Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn’t cut it at all. In fact, she increased funding and signed a bill that will triple per-pupil funding over three years for special needs students with high-cost requirements. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

[run4it]

Uh, Hardy? I don't think you get to be the one to tell us about who is misrepresenting God and Jesus....not after you told us Jesus would be pro-war.

By the way, I haven't seen anyone say that there should be no mention of God in schools. Just not in the science classroom.

And for the record, this (and most) Democrats ARE Christians, and so, as a party, it is a non-sequiter that we would "scorn the belief systems."

[steven]

I wish people would stop getting there info from chain emails and blogger sites

[LHardy]

And for the record, this (and most) Democrats ARE Christians, and so, as a party, it is a non-sequiter that we would "scorn the belief systems."

Funny thing about the Democrats. Call out the left side of their party, which at present is running their party, and they believe you are talking about the whole of the Democrat party.
And it is comming out of the Democrat party.

That's twice now in as many days the Democrats on this MB have assumed responsibility for the actions of others in their party.
Instead of denouncing those in their party that they disagree with they make claims of things said by republicans that never were said at all.

They know full well that it is true and they can't do a thing about it. Except Joe Liberman seems to recognize who has taken over the Democrats and he stood up against them.

Sounds like a party that doesn't like how it's being run by the kooks within that party.

[winfield31]

I've always liked to say Jesus IS , not was........

[winfield31]

^^^^^^^^^^^^please excuse the "font" , my mistake........:o

[winfield31]

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/grOGbjUKf2o&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/grOGbjUKf2o&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> this is what Jesus IS.............the song , not Elvis............

[mikenold]

"Jesus was a community activist and Polit was a Govenor."

Why did Sarah cut funding in Alaska for special needs children?

Sarah is full of crap and you know it.


And this is the guy you would have for president?

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

WOW! Much better than Palin :rolleyes:

[citymouse]

I think, in the big scheme of things, God really dosen't care who wins the election. His kingdom is not of this world.
However, when he walked the earth as a living breathing reisdent of the Holy Land his views tended to be Democrat if you go by his teachings.
The sermon on the Mount for example. Or the Loaves and fishes, in particular. If the Republicans, or Reganites, ran it evry one would have starved because "there's no free lunches".

[mesue]

I've always liked to say Jesus IS , not was........
thank you :)

[mesue]

Jewish explains a lot

[mesue]

I think, in the big scheme of things, God really dosen't care who wins the election. His kingdom is not of this world.
However, when he walked the earth as a living breathing reisdent of the Holy Land his views tended to be Democrat if you go by his teachings.
The sermon on the Mount for example. Or the Loaves and fishes, in particular. If the Republicans, or Reganites, ran it evry one would have starved because "there's no free lunches".
Got a Book, Chapter and Verse to back your theory?

[citymouse]

Got a Book, Chapter and Verse to back your theory?
Yeah. The baltimore Catichisom. Go to the page about the beatitudes.

[Steiny]

explains a lot


Jewish Carpenter

[winfield31]

I think, in the big scheme of things, God really dosen't care who wins the election. His kingdom is not of this world.
However, when he walked the earth as a living breathing reisdent of the Holy Land his views tended to be Democrat if you go by his teachings.
The sermon on the Mount for example. Or the Loaves and fishes, in particular. If the Republicans, or Reganites, ran it evry one would have starved because "there's no free lunches". Jesus a democrat ? Funny stuff.........I don't know , I kind of see Him with a Reagon Button pinned to His robe ;) But Jesus gave no "free lunches" either , He said , "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it." , thus , you have to lose your body in the flesh & become a spiritual being , & also if anything God Our Father was a Conservative , & Jesus His Perfect Son a Liberal , not democrats & republicans...........citymouse , you're funny , some funny stuff/thinking , but you're right about one thing , His Kingdom is not of this world , but in Heaven , as there's a verse "Greater is He (God) that is within me , then he (satan) that is within the world....." , which essentially means that satan "runs" this world if you're of the flesh , with lack of "Revelation Knowledge" , satan has no power over us that accept Jesus , the "Liberal" (lol) Son Of His Father (& ours).....& "no weapon formed against me shall prosper" , you can look that up citymouse..........God bless the politicians & leaders in general , but I assure you , God is working in the background of all of our lives , the rich , poor , the classes & He's going to "introduce" you to His Son Jesus some day , He'll knock on your door no matter what you're registered as , best say come on in Jesus , welcome:)

[winfield31]

BTW , very interesting way to combine what people debate/argue the most about , politics & religion..........good thread..........

[LHardy]

BTW , very interesting way to combine what people debate/argue the most about , politics & religion..........good thread..........

Thank You,

I'm only the messenger!

[ILOVEDNY]

Why did Sarah cut funding in Alaska for special needs children?

Sarah is full of crap and you know it.


This lie was disproven days ago.
You really should click on a few more websites other then
DKOS and Moveon.borg.

[mesue]

Jewish Carpenter
I thought you were an online teacher?

[Steiny]

"You?" Are "You" a online preacher?

Nah, I don't think they had computers when Jesus was alive. No BlackBoard or WebCt Programs.

[Sylvan]

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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/grOGbjUKf2o&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"></object> this is what Jesus IS.............the song , not Elvis............

Elvis died while on the toilet reading a book that proved jesus never existed and that the christ consciousness is the result of authoritarian propaganda.

Yeah, he had popped his usual dose of pills that day, but his heart couldnt take it when he realized his beliefs were one giant lie to trick people into being in love with their own enslavement.

Elvis was a moron.

[mesue]

I thought you were an online teacher?
The University of Phoenix isn't an on line university?

[Steiny]

Yes, anyone can be certified to be a preacher/minister/priest/rabbi/shaman/etc. these days with the availability and flexibility of online education.

[mesue]

Yes, anyone can be certified to be a preacher/minister/priest/rabbi/shaman/etc. these days with the availability and flexibility of online education.
I wouldn't know about that as that is not my field of training. However, that you chose to single out preacher/minister/priest/rabbi/shaman/etc combined with your post history speaks volumes to me.
I was under the impression that you mentioned teaching at the UoP once. I think I am mistaken though.

[winfield31]

Elvis died while on the toilet reading a book that proved jesus never existed and that the christ consciousness is the result of authoritarian propaganda.

Yeah, he had popped his usual dose of pills that day, but his heart couldnt take it when he realized his beliefs were one giant lie to trick people into being in love with their own enslavement.

Elvis was a moron. I was stating that the song "If I Can Dream" IS what Jesus is , too difficult to comprendez vous syl ???............BTW , Elvis , with his "GIGANTIC" world status , reached more souls through his religious songs then you'll ever reach , even if you become "Born-Again Christian" today.........I'm sure Elvis planted the "seeds" of the Christian faith to many , & many of those seeds took root & people did become born-again thru the Holy Spirit using Elvis , it's also the reason Elvis was "attacked" so viciously by the evil in this world , as again , satan "runs" this world if you're of the "flesh" , & I don't judge Elvis , as that's not my job , but God did use Elvis also...........& in my heart , I believe Elvis was forgiven his sins , just some discerment , a gift I'm given from God , through His Son Jesus & the Holy Spirit.........You may think Elvis was a loser/A-Hole , but he was beyond rich , couldn't live a normal life with ALL those material riches , was basically forced to be a recluse in the world , yet alone the USA , you're none of those things , have NOTHING in common with him , what's your excuse for being an A-Hole ?:confused:

[run4it]

But Jesus gave no "free lunches" either
100% untrue. If you don't know the loaves and fishes stories, then you didn't listen very close in Sunday School

[Add It Up]

As we all have read or heard from those in the Obama support group.

"Jesus was a community activist and Polit was a Govenor."

Yes, for a while Jesus is said to be a carpenter, but most community activists have many roles in life.

Our science isn't allowed to theorize the existance of a demensional existence for which they lack the knowlege to find.

Sure it is, but if there are no facts to support it, and there are many facts to dispute it, it would not be accepted as valid until proof could be demonstrated.


I see a much differant picture than that being painted by Obamites.

True you do, my vision of God is that he accepts free will and really has no part in this election.

[Sylvan]

I was stating that the song "If I Can Dream" IS what Jesus is , too difficult to comprendez vous syl ???............BTW , Elvis , with his "GIGANTIC" world status , reached more souls through his religious songs then you'll ever reach , even if you become "Born-Again Christian" today.........I'm sure Elvis planted the "seeds" of the Christian faith to many , & many of those seeds took root & people did become born-again thru the Holy Spirit using Elvis , it's also the reason Elvis was "attacked" so viciously by the evil in this world , as again , satan "runs" this world if you're of the "flesh" , & I don't judge Elvis , as that's not my job , but God did use Elvis also...........& in my heart , I believe Elvis was forgiven his sins , just some discerment , a gift I'm given from God , through His Son Jesus & the Holy Spirit.........You may think Elvis was a loser/A-Hole , but he was beyond rich , couldn't live a normal life with ALL those material riches , was basically forced to be a recluse in the world , yet alone the USA , you're none of those things , have NOTHING in common with him , what's your excuse for being an A-Hole ?:confused:


Just spreading the truth. And BTW I wrote my post and posted it before I clicked on the clip so I had no idea what the lyrics were. All that god and christ crap is the root cause of the problems. Some day you'll understand, just like Elvis did minutes before he croaked.

[winfield31]

Just spreading the truth. And BTW I wrote my post and posted it before I clicked on the clip so I had no idea what the lyrics were. All that god and christ crap is the root cause of the problems. Some day you'll understand, just like Elvis did minutes before he croaked. & YOU of ALL people knew what Elvis (OR ANYONE) is thinking before they die............listen to the song , if you don't dream or have visions , you're already dead inside , & by reading most of your "woe is me" posts , I think you may be............

[winfield31]

100% untrue. If you don't know the loaves and fishes stories, then you didn't listen very close in Sunday School I know the story well , the fish did come with fries (chips for you English out there) , but they were extra , you had to sit & listen to a Jesus lecture or sermon , which means you "spent" your time with Him , & we all know that "time is money".........:)

[Sylvan]

if you don't dream or have visions , you're already dead inside

Those lyrics are "spiritual" lyrics. Spirituality is the opposite of religion because those visions and dreams that keep a person alive are unique unto themselves. Everyone knows that Elvis was a jesus freak. So when it was realized that his dreams and visions were the same as the rest of the brainwashed herd, he became dead inside, researched the facts and the truth killed him.

All of the pills were the self-medication he needed to hide the truth of himself, from himself for a while.

Heres proof - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6334005121196324215&hl=en

[winfield31]

Those lyrics are "spiritual" lyrics. Spirituality is the opposite of religion because those visions and dreams that keep a person alive are unique unto themselves. Everyone knows that Elvis was a jesus freak. So when it was realized that his dreams and visions were the same as the rest of the brainwashed herd, he became dead inside, researched the facts and the truth killed him.

All of the pills were the self-medication he needed to hide the truth of himself, from himself for a while.

Heres proof - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6334005121196324215&hl=en the song "If I Can Dream" is an inspiring song , makes one full of hope , yet it puts a lump in your throat & goosebumps on your skin , unless again of course you're dead , I believe you're almost there , probably the majority of your "women" troubles........But don't try & be a soothsayer & state YOU of ALL people knew what Elvis or ANYONE for that matter is thinking before they die.........

[Sylvan]

the song "If I Can Dream" is an inspiring song , makes one full of hope , yet it puts a lump in your throat & goosebumps on your skin , unless again of course you're dead , I believe you're almost there , probably the majority of your "women" troubles........But don't try & be a soothsayer & state YOU of ALL people knew what Elvis or ANYONE for that matter is thinking before they die.........

If women troubles means those who I date turn out to be different from what they led me to believe so I would agree to date them in the first place all the while I remain honest about myself and sincere about what I would like, okay then +1 for you pal. But just know the majority have had some kind of religious conditioning which explains their esteems and hypocrisy.

Soothsayer? :p Yeah, you figured me out. :) I like using my freedom of instinctive spirituality to see more than the religious herd would ever be given permission to dream. It doesnt bother me. :cool:

[winfield31]

If women troubles means those who I date turn out to be different from what they led me to believe so I would agree to date them in the first place all the while I remain honest about myself and sincere about what I would like, okay then +1 for you pal. But just know the majority have had some kind of religious conditioning which explains their esteems and hypocrisy.

Soothsayer? :p Yeah, you figured me out. :) I like using my freedom of instinctive spirituality to see more than the religious herd would ever be given permission to dream. It doesnt bother me. :cool:syl , this is a civil , well thought out post , doesn't bother me at all...........but I do apologize about the "women troubles" , you've written about them before , my bad for bringing it up , sorry...........