David DiPietro

[houdini]

GOP Senate candidate and former East Aurora mayor David DiPietro was arraigned in a Wales Town court on June 26th. DiPietro is accused of harassment in the second degree by East Aurora resident and former DiPietro campaign worker Anne Leary.

Leary is accusing that on DiPietro’s last day as mayor he verbally harassed her in the village hall when she was attempting to pay her water bill. DiPietro allegedly used obscenities and told Leary that she would “get what was coming to her.”

A “stay away” order of protection was issued against DiPietro on June 23rd.

DiPietro’s attorney has requested the charges be dropped and fully expects them to be:

“Even if made, these statements would not amount to harassment,” [Attorney Patrick] Quinlivan said in a message to the paper, also noting that the First Amendment provides protection. Quinlivan has advised DiPietronot to speak with the media about the case.

DiPietro is challenging incumbent Dale Volker for the seat in the 59th Senate district.

[crabapples]

GOP Senate candidate and former East Aurora mayor David DiPietro was arraigned in a Wales Town court on June 26th. DiPietro is accused of harassment in the second degree by East Aurora resident and former DiPietro campaign worker Anne Leary.

Leary is accusing that on DiPietro’s last day as mayor he verbally harassed her in the village hall when she was attempting to pay her water bill. DiPietro allegedly used obscenities and told Leary that she would “get what was coming to her.”

A “stay away” order of protection was issued against DiPietro on June 23rd.

DiPietro’s attorney has requested the charges be dropped and fully expects them to be:

“Even if made, these statements would not amount to harassment,” [Attorney Patrick] Quinlivan said in a message to the paper, also noting that the First Amendment provides protection. Quinlivan has advised DiPietronot to speak with the media about the case.

DiPietro is challenging incumbent Dale Volker for the seat in the 59th Senate district.

Regardless of whether or not what was said was illegal, it shows poor moral character and disrespect towards women when the Mayor of the Village starts to swear at someone.

This guy shouldnt even be running for office. If his own village doesnt want him as mayor, why should the senate district want him as their senator?

[therising]

GOP Senate candidate and former East Aurora mayor David DiPietro was arraigned in a Wales Town court on June 26th. DiPietro is accused of harassment in the second degree by East Aurora resident and former DiPietro campaign worker Anne Leary.

Leary is accusing that on DiPietro’s last day as mayor he verbally harassed her in the village hall when she was attempting to pay her water bill. DiPietro allegedly used obscenities and told Leary that she would “get what was coming to her.”

A “stay away” order of protection was issued against DiPietro on June 23rd.

DiPietro’s attorney has requested the charges be dropped and fully expects them to be:

“Even if made, these statements would not amount to harassment,” [Attorney Patrick] Quinlivan said in a message to the paper, also noting that the First Amendment provides protection. Quinlivan has advised DiPietronot to speak with the media about the case.

DiPietro is challenging incumbent Dale Volker for the seat in the 59th Senate district.

Houdini - are these your own words? Or did you take them from another site?

Secondly....Why don't you state your opinion on this matter?

I see that you've been a member here for over a year and a half, but you've only posted seven times. The reason I bring this up, is because, being an infrequent poster, I'm thinking you must have some strong feeling on this, that would cause you to start the thread. So, why not share your opinion with us?

As a matter of fact, this is only the second time you've posted since November, when you started a thread entitled "Carl Dipiertro."

http://www.speakupwny.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16561

[Political Junkie]

Houdini - are these your own words? Or did you take them from another site?

Secondly....Why don't you state your opinion on this matter?

I see that you've been a member here for over a year and a half, but you've only posted seven times. The reason I bring this up, is because, being an infrequent poster, I'm thinking you must have some strong feeling on this, that would cause you to start the thread. So, why not share your opinion with us?

As a matter of fact, this is only the second time you've posted since November, when you started a thread entitled "Carl Dipiertro."

http://www.speakupwny.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16561


Why would someone start a post that is the obituary of a Politician's father and that's it??? Can't figure that one out...
Then seven months surfaces again.

[crabapples]

Why would someone start a post that is the obituary of a Politician's father and that's it??? Can't figure that one out...
Then seven months surfaces again.

Why would someones first post be about a post that happened 7 months ago......

[Political Junkie]

I am fairly familiar with the DiPietro Harassment charge and know boths people/sides of the story. If peopole want to criticize and post about the former mayor over this incident it's open game. He put himself in the position. Yes, I am commenting about a post from 7 months ago. But the post was brought back up four days ago by someone and I question the purpose of posting an obituary.

That was my first post and probably not my last. I skim boards and blogs but usually elect to observe and devote my time to more important matters.

[crabapples]

I am fairly familiar with the DiPietro Harassment charge and know boths people/sides of the story. If peopole want to criticize and post about the former mayor over this incident it's open game. He put himself in the position. Yes, I am commenting about a post from 7 months ago. But the post was brought back up four days ago by someone and I question the purpose of posting an obituary.

That was my first post and probably not my last. I skim boards and blogs but usually elect to observe and devote my time to more important matters.

Not to speak on Houdinis behalf, but it seems he posted an obituary because he wanted to. Others have posted obituaries and other information when people die. I dont see the big deal. Someone simply asked Houdini why he has two posts, one about DiPietro and one about his dads death.

DiPietro is a clown and would be THE worse choice for the Senate district.

[houdini]

I know (knew) them both. Some people see things where they are not, I guess.....

This site isn't one I regularly visit.

[Bijou]

As I'm sitting here watchin the results on EC Board of Elections...I'm giddy that Volker is losing...but curious to know more about DiPietro....

Anyone have anymore dirt? I know enough about Volker and Konst...but not much about DiPietro.

[Sylvan]

As I'm sitting here watchin the results on EC Board of Elections...I'm giddy that Volker is losing...but curious to know more about DiPietro....

Anyone have anymore dirt? I know enough about Volker and Konst...but not much about DiPietro.

I dont have any dirt, but the good news is DiPietro returned my phone call today to discuss how Volker has screwed up snowmobiling for a lot of people in NYS.

[Jim Ostrowski]

Volker is winning the outer counties.

He gerrymandered the district just so.

[knowsitall]

You backed the loser Jim....but of course it wasn't your fault.

[Jim Ostrowski]

I backed the right man. Only people lacking in principle view elections as a horse race.

Note this anonymous fellow failed to respond to my point. That's why I post here rarely. I prefer an actual dialogue.

[crabapples]

Volker is winning the outer counties.

He gerrymandered the district just so.

I guess you dont know what gerrymandering really means do you? Gerrymandering is creating a district to include as many people of one party over another. In this case it would be the most Republicans in a district. Last time I checked it was a Republican Primary. So, gerrymandered district or not, it is not relevant when both candidates are of the SAME party.

Its not like you and Dave didnt know the district going into the election. It has only been that way since 2002! Plus Volker almost won Erie and potentially could depending on absentee votes.

[crabapples]

You backed the loser Jim....but of course it wasn't your fault.

Its beginning to look like a kiss of death if Jim O endorses someone....

[Jim Ostrowski]

Actually, and I apologize for this, I know quite a bit about gerrymandering and wrote two reports analyzing this district.

They speak for themselves.

http://freenewyork.org/articles/newsalerts/Free%20New%20York%20News%20Alert%20No12.pdf

http://freenewyork.org/articles/newsalerts/News%20Alert%20No.%2013--gerrymandering.pdf

As for the kiss of death, other than a few blogs, I don’t recall publicly endorsing Dave. My name was not in any of his ads or mailings. In any event, where I am known, Erie County, Dave won while being outspent about ten to one.

Facts are stubborn things but continue to cling to your opinions.

One of things I "love" about the web is that one ever admits they were wrong even when they are confronted with cold hard facts.

[crabapples]

Actually, and I apologize for this, I know quite a bit about gerrymandering and wrote two reports analyzing this district.

They speak for themselves.

http://freenewyork.org/articles/newsalerts/Free%20New%20York%20News%20Alert%20No12.pdf

http://freenewyork.org/articles/newsalerts/News%20Alert%20No.%2013--gerrymandering.pdf

As for the kiss of death, other than a few blogs, I don’t recall publicly endorsing Dave. My name was not in any of his ads or mailings. In any event, where I am known, Erie County, Dave won while being outspent about ten to one.

Facts are stubborn things but continue to cling to your opinions.

One of things I "love" about the web is that one ever admits they were wrong even when they are confronted with cold hard facts.

Something is not a fact because you wrote a seven page paper about it and cited Wikipedia as a source. Your articles above are just YOUR opinion. You wrote those papers when you were supporting Lenny Roberto. No bias involved Im sure. People can make statistics say whatever they want them to say.

You supported Dave and attended events Dave went to. I would call that an endorsement. Maybe you publicly endorsed Dave, but the media didnt show because you are nothing more than a political wannabe.

Hows your buddy Carl Paladino feeling this morning?

Ive admitted being wrong numerous times on this message board. You havent provided any facts other than your opinion. Therefore, I have nothing to be wrong about. Cold hard facts? Maybe in your world.....

[Jim Ostrowski]

You prove my point exactly.

Instead of admitting that you are wrong that I know little about gerrymandering--I know, I know, lots of folks have written TWO ARTICLES about a subject and then were accused of knowing little--you simply compound your factual errors.

Can you get anything right?

I don’t have the time or energy to clean up all your mistakes.

1. You said gerrymandering is limited to party manipulation. That is wrong as any definition of gerrymandering will show. In the South, where most voters were Democrats, gerrymandering was racially based.

2. I wrote the reports "when [I was] supporting Lenny Roberto." Wrong again. One was written after Lenny had already lost. The other bemoaned the fact that there were so few candidates running--a comment that could be construed as unfavorable to Primary Challenge.

3. And I really don't recall working on that campaign. Do you have any FACTS to suggest that I did? On election night, I predicted Volker would win, not my style if I was actively supporting someone else.

[crabapples]

You prove my point exactly.

Instead of admitting that you are wrong that I know little about gerrymandering--I know, I know, lots of folks have written TWO ARTICLES about a subject and then were accused of knowing little--you simply compound your factual errors. This doesnt prove you know anything about it. It just shows that you think you are an expert on it. In fact, its just you rambling your thoughts.

Can you get anything right?

I don’t have the time or energy to clean up all your mistakes.

1. You said gerrymandering is limited to party manipulation. That is wrong as any definition of gerrymandering will show. In the South, where most voters were Democrats, gerrymandering was racially based. Do you really think Dale Volker really wants to travel to Canandaigua all the time? I dont think anyone would want to do that. The lines were drawn like that in 2002. What did his district look like from 1992-2001? If you showed a comparison of how they changed, then maybe you could make a case.

2. I wrote the reports "when [I was] supporting Lenny Roberto." Wrong again. One was written after Lenny had already lost. The other bemoaned the fact that there were so few candidates running--a comment that could be construed as unfavorable to Primary Challenge. You are splitting hairs here. You wrote one when Lenny was running complaining about the size of the district, then you wrote one after complaining about it. Did your support of Lenny end on election day? If so, that means you arent a good friend/supporter.

3. And I really don't recall working on that campaign. Do you have any FACTS to suggest that I did? On election night, I predicted Volker would win, not my style if I was actively supporting someone else.You support Primary Challenge. Lenny Roberto is the head of the group. Roberto ran for State Senate in 2006. You and your group endorsed Lenny. Therefore you endorsed Lenny.

Why are you trying to hide your support for Lenny?

[crabapples]

You dont recall working on the Roberto campaign? Here is what you wrote on your blog:



Volker/Roberto race shows the system is rigged
Dale Volker defeated Leonard Roberto last night, but that victory was actually secured when Dale Volker’s Republican majority drew its own gerrymandered state senate districts several years ago.

There are two main types of gerrymandering, by party and by geography. In a primary election, a challenger is not thwarted. However, geographical gerrymandering does hurt those challenging incumbents and/or endorsed candidates.


Roberto-Volker
According to the News, Len Roberto beat Volker in Volker’s home town of Lancaster as well as Alden, Aurora, Boston, Elma and Orchard Park. I guess he won the more suburban parts and lost the rural. Not sure what to make of that. Those people listen to WBEN more?

This may indicate a problem for Volker in November where he faces tax revolt candidate Tom Casey, a Democrat. Casey bears watching since the “natural” tax revolt vote tends Republican. Thus a pro-tax revolt Democrat is a dangerous thing. They pick up the normal Democrat vote and lots more.

On the other hand, Volker has the three minor party patronage mill nominations. Why am I not surprised?

How many times do I have to say it? The Conservative Party isn’t conservative; the Independence Party isn’t independent and the Working Families Party stands for the interests of more wealthy workers at the expense of less wealthy workers.

Who should the tax revolt support?
Saturday, September 16th, 2006
With Leonard Roberto’s defeat, Primary Challenge to the best of my knowledge has no candidate in the November election.
Those who support the tax revolt need to identify a few good candidates to support this November.


By tax revolt, I mean candidates who by their word or deed have manifested support for the tax revolt.

Tax revolt people in boldface.

144th Assembly
Sam Hoyt (D) (incumbent)
Rus Thompson (R)

146th Assembly
Jack Quinn III (R) (incumbent)
Max Tresmond (D)

59th Senate
Dale Volker (R (endorsed)) (incumbent)
Leonard Roberto (R (independent))
Thomas Casey (D)

The only primary election is Volker v. Roberto on September 11th. Only Republicans can vote.

******

For someone who says his Free Buffalo, non-profit organization is non-partisan, you are clearly mistaken. On you "personal" blog almost all of your posts are partisan. Free Buffalo's stances are a mirror image of your blogs.... shocking I know.

[Jim Ostrowski]

Right, one lukewarm pre-primary mention on my personal blog. No work on the campaign. No donations.

Free Buffalo doesn't endorse candidates.

So many factual errors, so little time.

What you don't know is that I disapproved of Primary Challenge's activities in 2006 and thought Lenny running against Volker was a mistake. I was not involved in that campaign. So once again, you put your foot in your mouth.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

And you have failed to change the subject from your original errors.

And one more factual error to point out. You put my "personal" blog in quotes. Wrong. It is my personal blog.

What's that, seven errors? Keep digging the hole deeper.

[crabapples]

Right, one lukewarm pre-primary mention on my personal blog. No work on the campaign. No donations.

Free Buffalo doesn't endorse candidates.

So many factual errors, so little time.

What you don't know is that I disapproved of Primary Challenge's activities in 2006 and thought Lenny running against Volker was a mistake. I was not involved in that campaign. So once again, you put your foot in your mouth.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

And you have failed to change the subject from your original errors.

And one more factual error to point out. You put my "personal" blog in quotes. Wrong. It is my personal blog.

What's that, seven errors? Keep digging the hole deeper.

Re-read your own blog Jimmy boy. You spout off on there constantly. You supported Lenny before and continue to. You supported Dave DiPietro, Mark Grisanti, etc, etc. You are a part of the Primary Challenge crew, whether you want to admit to that or not is up to you.

Right, you dont endorse candidates. Anyone who reads your stuff knows who you are implying to vote for. Read the comments people leave on "Jims" blog. Others have questioned his post for biasness and him being paid for by the people he supports. (Seems like you are just as bad as Illuzzi and Gramigna to me).... pay for praise......

Its funny that you have an excuse or reason for everything. You know, you actually sound more and more like a politician every time you type. You havent proven any of these "seven" errors that you have cited in your head.

It would take me weeks or years to sift through all the crap you have put out there.

[Jim Ostrowski]

If your conscience requires that you feel a moral equivalence between a machine hack like yourself and the person who has fought the machine longer and harder than anyone else in WNY, so be it. If realty bites, fly from it.

Say hi the next time you skulk around and I'm nearby.

[crabapples]

If your conscience requires that you feel a moral equivalence between a machine hack like yourself and the person who has fought the machine longer and harder than anyone else in WNY, so be it. If realty bites, fly from it.

Say hi the next time you skulk around and I'm nearby.

What makes you think I havent already said hi to your sorry ass?

Im not a machine hack. In fact, I support candidates from both parties. You just seem to support unqualified individuals and then try and promote your sense of being better than everyone by quoting your own opinions.....

[Jim Ostrowski]

I'll take my leave now. I prefer not to post on this site for reasons I have stated many times. I did it for Dave DiPietro, the third candidate in 35 years that I worked my rear end off for--the first two were my father in 1976 and Ron Paul.

I want to thank all those who made our amazing victory over Dale Volker in Erie County and in his home town of Lancaster possible.

It was fun working with Tony on Election Night.

[Sylvan]

Im not a machine hack. In fact, I support candidates from both parties. You just seem to support unqualified individuals and then try and promote your sense of being better than everyone by quoting your own opinions.....

Compare the region from what it once was, from perhaps a few different eras, to what it is now and try to imagine its potential for the future. The friggin' machine deserves to be hacked until the [insanity] parties' jig is abolished for good. Inotherwords, bragging about supporting both sides doesnt make you look smarter than anyone else. :rolleyes:

[crabapples]

Compare the region from what it once was, from perhaps a few different eras, to what it is now and try to imagine its potential for the future. The friggin' machine deserves to be hacked until the [insanity] parties' jig is abolished for good. Inotherwords, bragging about supporting both sides doesnt make you look smarter than anyone else. :rolleyes:

Sylvan,
I wasnt bragging. I was saying I support qualified individuals from both parties. As much as we want to blame every legislator for the failings of this area for years, that is simply not fair. There are legislators up in Albany fighting for change but their voices are in the minority so they cant get anywhere. It is up to the voters to send in qualified individuals to work with them. There are also some legislators here who are in it for themselves and they need to be removed.

[Sylvan]

Sylvan,
I wasnt bragging. I was saying I support qualified individuals from both parties. As much as we want to blame every legislator for the failings of this area for years, that is simply not fair. There are legislators up in Albany fighting for change but their voices are in the minority so they cant get anywhere. It is up to the voters to send in qualified individuals to work with them. There are also some legislators here who are in it for themselves and they need to be removed.

Okay, well I can honestly admit that when those in the know around this MB chase each other away, and/or prevent the knowledge from being spread to those who are trying to understand the truth, motivation can sometimes be hindered.

Who are these so-called "good ones" you are talking about?
And where are the skilled helpers supposed to come from?

[crabapples]

Okay, well I can honestly admit that when those in the know around this MB chase each other away, and/or prevent the knowledge from being spread to those who are trying to understand the truth, motivation can sometimes be hindered.

Who are these so-called "good ones" you are talking about?
And where are the skilled helpers supposed to come from?

Most of the minority members of the Assembly. They vote against the budget, they propose common sense legislation, they oppose the three-men-in-a-room system. They dont vote for the power mongers. I would say Mark Schroeder (opposes Sheldon Silver), Jim Hayes (votes against tax increases), and Mike Cole (voted against every tax increase). I know Mike lost his election, so maybe Jane Corwin will continue voting against taxes.

Skilled helpers would include business people (Collins, Corwin, etc), community activists and people with real ideas on how to effect real change. There are plenty of people out there. It is up to them to decide if they want to put their name, money and past history out there for public consumption.

Not driving J.O. from the message board. I just think his logic is hypocritical. At least I admit when my views can be.

[Sylvan]

Most of the minority members of the Assembly. They vote against the budget, they propose common sense legislation, they oppose the three-men-in-a-room system. They dont vote for the power mongers. I would say Mark Schroeder (opposes Sheldon Silver), Jim Hayes (votes against tax increases), and Mike Cole (voted against every tax increase). I know Mike lost his election, so maybe Jane Corwin will continue voting against taxes.

Skilled helpers would include business people (Collins, Corwin, etc), community activists and people with real ideas on how to effect real change. There are plenty of people out there. It is up to them to decide if they want to put their name, money and past history out there for public consumption.

Not driving J.O. from the message board. I just think his logic is hypocritical. At least I admit when my views can be.

And there is the ringer in bold above. Although the truth, how can anyone blame others for not wanting to be exposed to that crap!

[crabapples]

And there is the ringer in bold above. Although the truth, how can anyone blame others for not wanting to be exposed to that crap!

Well if they have the money and they havent done anything crazy in the past, which I would think MOST people havent done anything ridiculous, that shouldnt inhibit people. Plus, the ones it does scare from running probably shouldnt be running in the first place.

But I can see the hinderence. I think they (the people who can help make a change) might be scared that they will be the next Hoyt family, but unless they had affairs, they shouldnt have those kinds of problems.

[Sylvan]

Well if they have the money and they havent done anything crazy in the past, which I would think MOST people havent done anything ridiculous, that shouldnt inhibit people. Plus, the ones it does scare from running probably shouldnt be running in the first place.

But I can see the hinderence. I think they (the people who can help make a change) might be scared that they will be the next Hoyt family, but unless they had affairs, they shouldnt have those kinds of problems.

The inhibitor is the fact that the incompetent out number the competent, whether in the region, state, or country (you pick one), what sometimes can seem to be over 9 to 1. Politics is like religion, seeks power in numbers. And both magically work together to keep that 9 to 1 human paradigm going.

What am I talking about? Use seatbelt laws, and helmet laws as a metaphor. "The pigs payed the worms to instill the fear of this crap into the children under mandatory attendance to the creatures institution". Individual liberties and independence are things of the past that dont cycle back without some kind of war.