Patchin Community Days - Disappoints all

[Iknow]

Another year of Patchin Community Days has come and gone.

anyone else disappointed in the event?

Either give it up all together or make it worth attending

DONT HALF ASS IT!!

[Justbecuz]

Another year of Patchin Community Days has come and gone.

anyone else disappointed in the event?

give it up all together

lots of people were. 3 rides? WOW........ Now your going to say they made money?..... Ya right

[Iknow]

Make Money?

the public will never know how much money flows. Only the Plutas know that..

"Patchin Community Days Committee" has never divulged how much money is made and who gets it.

Bring back Hill Fest, back when all the fire companies were involved and competed against each other. Now that was a good time.

What happened to the Fire Works on Sunday?

Did the Chair of the committee cancel them? like the rides a few years back...

[TooCurious]

:mad: Your always putting people down. But it seems you never want to Volunteer your time to help. Community Days is always looking for volunteers. There are only so many people that are willing to volunteer their time the week of the event. Did you?? Stop slamming the fire companies. We all know your beef is with Jim, not the fire company.
Yes it was a disappointment I will agree, however, I will not sit here and criticize these people for the all the hard work and effort they put in to it.
If I recall, it was either last year or the year before where town fire companies and surrounding areas were involved in the Fire Truck pull.
Kudos to Patchin Firefighters! They worked their butts off. If Boston and North Boston members wanted to join the committee, I'm sure they would be welcomed with open arms. As I said already volunteers are needed and that has been advertised. You have a lot of nerve to criticize.
Provide honest constructive criticism and I'm sure people will be willing to listen. I spoke with one of the committee members the last day of the event and suggested a link be put on the web site, asking for the Communities input as to what they would like to see. I think issues lie with volunteers.




Make Money?

the public will never know how much money flows. Only the Plutas know that..

"Patchin Community Days Committee" has never divulged how much money is made and who gets it.

Bring back Hill Fest, back when all the fire companies were involved and competed against each other. Now that was a good time.

What happened to the Fire Works on Sunday?

Did the Chair of the committee cancel them? like the rides a few years back...

[PVFC.EMS]

Holy crap...someone actually has a good head on their shoulders.

We did work hard this year, thank you for appreciating that. And the fireworks were cancelled due do the weather. Im sure most of you can...try to understand that...


Bring back Hill Fest, back when all the fire companies were involved and competed against each other. Now that was a good time.
Seriously you typed that?! Yes...lets have fire companies compete and care more about competition than helping out the town and each other!!! what a great idea you moron. Honestly I think half of the people that post on here dissing the Patchin Fire Company and Jim Pluta and Bill Eagan and Rich Hawkins and anyone else they can sink their claws into must have been dropped on their damn heads.
One thing I think cant be said on here enough is "grow a pair, shut up and grow up." you children.

And Iknow, maybe if you pulled out head out of somewhere and cared to join a committee or a fire company you would know about the money, which seems to me thats all you care about anyways.

This is so sad.

[The War Is ON]

Make Money?

the public will never know how much money flows. Only the Plutas know that..

"Patchin Community Days Committee" has never divulged how much money is made and who gets it.

Bring back Hill Fest, back when all the fire companies were involved and competed against each other. Now that was a good time.

What happened to the Fire Works on Sunday?

Did the Chair of the committee cancel them? like the rides a few years back...

We really need to meet some day.

[sneakers77]

Make Money?

the public will never know how much money flows. Only the Plutas know that..

"Patchin Community Days Committee" has never divulged how much money is made and who gets it.

It is true to the best of my knowledge that the Boston Community Days committee has never divulged how much money they have made........with that being said the following figures were obtained from the Guidestar website:

2004 Net: $5,022

2005 Net: $7,089

2006 Net: $6,680

I heard thru the rumor mill they were down 60% this year.

[sneakers77]

We really need to meet some day.

Make sure you wear that pretty pink dress:D :D :D :D

You only get one chance to make a first impression....................

[sneakers77]

what a great idea you moron. Honestly I think half of the people that post on here dissing the Patchin Fire Company and Jim Pluta and Bill Eagan and Rich Hawkins and anyone else they can sink their claws into must have been dropped on their damn heads.

Why must you sound so defensive? You seem to be a resonable individual, but sometimes I swear you and war could be brother and sister............

[PVFC.EMS]

Why must you sound so defensive? You seem to be a resonable individual, but sometimes I swear you and war could be brother and sister............


No thats just what happens when you believe in the same things and you follow the brotherhood and sisterhood of the fire companies.

its kinda like "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours."

[Iknow]

I just call them like I see them.

Volunteer? for what?

to Walk around and smoke and drink beer and wait for Pluta to tell me what to do? Eat free food because your on the commity?

No thanks!! I dont smoke or drink.

Give up Community Days its been driven into the ground.

[PVFC.EMS]

Well hey I dont smoke or drink either.

yet I still volunteer my time for this town.

because I care.

[crabapples]

I just call them like I see them.

Volunteer? for what?

to Walk around and smoke and drink beer and wait for Pluta to tell me what to do? Eat free food because your on the commity?

No thanks!! I dont smoke or drink.

Give up Community Days its been driven into the ground.

As an outsider from another Town, I attended the Boston Community Days back in 2004. Seemed like a good time and things werent too bad. Didnt get back until this year, and things really were pathetic.

I understand Boston is not a huge Town, but that was a poor display. Maybe the Town should take a year or two off and revamp its whole thing. It surely doesnt reflect well upon your town when it looks like things are done half-assed.

[LAsurvivor]

Lackawanna's festival was a great success. Maybe Boston should hire our Economic Development Director:p

[PVFC.EMS]

Ok the reason why there werent many rides this year is because all the ride vendors were already booked, and instead of moving the dates every year it was decided that they keep the dates and sacrifice the rides. and the weather, well no one could really help that.

does that help? it wasnt a money issue alright? any thing else?

[Iknow]

sacrafice the rides? now theres a brilliant decision.. screw the kids. Right..

and the band saturday night Black Widow. why would anyone in there right mind select that band for a community event? great for a biker bar but Patchin Community Days.. come on.

[PVFC.EMS]

Ahem I do believe its called the BOSTON Community days, last I checked anyways.

yep, nothin comes up when ya type in patchincommunitydays.com. however when you type in bostoncommunitydays.com you get a website that talks about this carnival in this town called Boston, New York, just south of Hamburg. Crazy right?! Whoda thunk it?

Hey Iknow, go get your glasses rescripted I think they're a little off. Farsighted? Nearsighted? Dumbsighted? either way get new ones

[BostonPatriot]

I think it is more about smoke and mirrors then someone needing a new prescription for glasses.
All three fire companies rely on fundraising to meet their needs. From what I have been told, Town Fire Protection money does not cover everything, and some of those monies can not be used for non-essential items; such as the social aspect of the organziation.

So with that, Boston does Bingo, Chicken 'n Rib Dinner, Gun Raffle and thier Auction. North Boston did their dinners, 20 Week Club, and now this year, their Gala event. Patchin does their Meat Raffles and Community Days.

Why does it have to be such a secret? I checked out that website sneakers spoke of, and it shows not for profit 990 forms. And on Patchin's is Community Days. So why the smoke n mirrors?

There have been failed fund rasiers for each organization- Bingo; Monte Carlo Nights, Tool Raffles.

Times change. Fundraising fads come and go.

Western New York hosts more festivals and community evetns then any other place I know. That is what is great about being a part of this area.

It is though, getting harder and harder to support all of them, escecially when you pay $20 per kid to ride on 3 rides.

Something needs to give.

[BostonPatriot]

Too Curious wrote: " If Boston and North Boston members wanted to join the committee, I'm sure they would be welcomed with open arms."

Why should the other fire companies join a committee to help run a fundraiser for another fire company- when a large portion of fire company members do not support the others fundraisers.

[BostonPatriot]

It is true to the best of my knowledge that the Boston Community Days committee has never divulged how much money they have made........with that being said the following figures were obtained from the Guidestar website:

2004 Net: $5,022

2005 Net: $7,089

2006 Net: $6,680

I heard thru the rumor mill they were down 60% this year.


And Sneakers, if I remember right from another post, or maybe another conversation with someone, I had thought it was noted the Town has an item in their budget for Community Days. So the figure I thought I remembered was $2,000-$2,500 they contribute towards Community Days. I wonder if the other 2 Fire Companies get an extra $2,500 per year for their fundraising efforts, above and beyond the Town Protection Funds.

[sneakers77]

And Sneakers, if I remember right from another post, or maybe another conversation with someone, I had thought it was noted the Town has an item in their budget for Community Days. So the figure I thought I remembered was $2,000-$2,500 they contribute towards Community Days. I wonder if the other 2 Fire Companies get an extra $2,500 per year for their fundraising efforts, above and beyond the Town Protection Funds.

Hmm, I don't think so. But then again you have two board members that are Patchin Firemen.

With that being said, any disposable tax-money would be diverted toward Patchin Fire Co. and not the other two.

Sad, but true.

[TooCurious]

Isnt a fund raiser soley for Patchin. Patchin has the beer tent and thats all as far as I am aware. The ladies aux. has their tent also.
As for the committee, if you do your homework you will find there are only a few committee members that are Patchin Firefighters, the other members are simply residents of the community who are willing to help with the event, lets not forget all of the committee members are also members of our community that sacrifice their time FOR THE COMMUNITY.. Where are you? Is it only Patchin firefighters and few other residents that which to sacrifice their time. Why arent you thanking them for taking a weeks vacation, spending long days, nights and weekends to get the event off the ground... Grow up people. Bitch Bitch bitch is all any of you ever do. You are never satisfied and never seem to want to contribute to help the community, you'd rather waste your time complaining , (like that will change everything and make it better) than doing anything to help. The fire companies are there for OUR COMMUNITY. Whether it be Boston, Patchin or North Boston. Why does it seem that there is always so much testosteron (sp?) flowing between companies.. isnt the purpose of being a VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER to serve you're community, to help people. Firefighters are a rare breed of people.. stop complaining. You all sound like little children fighting over whose toy it is..and what color it is... come on people Grow Up!
If you as a firefighter arent willing to help out another firefighter, then why would you become firefighter??????????? This isnt a competion between companies, its a volunteer service for the community..:confused:




Too Curious wrote: " If Boston and North Boston members wanted to join the committee, I'm sure they would be welcomed with open arms."

Why should the other fire companies join a committee to help run a fundraiser for another fire company- when a large portion of fire company members do not support the others fundraisers.

On the contrary, if a Patchin Firefighter goes to Bostons Gunraffle, or North Bostons gala, isnt that supporting another company??

[Iknow]

thank you Boston Patriot

smoke and mirrors is what it has always been concerning Patchin Community Days.

AS you can see from the turn out this year, the town is sick and tired of it.

CAMPAIGN 2009 - GET RID OF THE OLD AND IN WITH NEW TOWN BOARD MEMBERS

hey PVFC.EMS wipe your nose its brown and smells like Jim Pluta!!

[PVFC.EMS]

Hey Iknow. unlike you I know better to keep my head out of peoples asses.
Its one of those things that comes with keeping and open mind. Which I offer you to try, only if you can find a mind first to do so with.

[BostonPatriot]

On the contrary, if a Patchin Firefighter goes to Bostons Gunraffle, or North Bostons gala, isnt that supporting another company??

Why yes it would be, however, the action must occur for the condition to exist. I do not know who does and who does not support each other. My point should've been articulated clearer. The volunteer firefighters put in a lot of time day in day out- week in week out. Not only answering calls, handling business matters, or learning, but they fundraise to get what they need. My intended direction was with all that is on their plates, why would they occupy more time to volunteer on a committee that appears the procceds go to another fire company. Just like I would venture to guess the average Boston Firefighter has not worked at a Pathin Meat Raffle. Nor has a North Boston Firefighter worked at Boston's Rib Dinner. That was the intended direction. Firefighters are generous people when it comes to time. They often shortchange themselves.
Case in point with the playground. Whenever something needs to be done, people call on the Fire Companies. They are Jack of all trades.

If you are throwing stones at me for not participating in my community, you are casting them in the wrong direction. I not only do a fair amount for the community I live in, but I would consider a fair amount also for the larger picture I exist in, county wide. I might even venture to say more then the average person, in many diverse roles.

[TooCurious]

Why yes it would be, however, the action must occur for the condition to exist. I do not know who does and who does not support each other. My point should've been articulated clearer. The volunteer firefighters put in a lot of time day in day out- week in week out. Not only answering calls, handling business matters, or learning, but they fundraise to get what they need. My intended direction was with all that is on their plates, why would they occupy more time to volunteer on a committee that appears the procceds go to another fire company. Just like I would venture to guess the average Boston Firefighter has not worked at a Pathin Meat Raffle. Nor has a North Boston Firefighter worked at Boston's Rib Dinner. That was the intended direction. Firefighters are generous people when it comes to time. They often shortchange themselves.
Case in point with the playground. Whenever something needs to be done, people call on the Fire Companies. They are Jack of all trades.

If you are throwing stones at me for not participating in my community, you are casting them in the wrong direction. I not only do a fair amount for the community I live in, but I would consider a fair amount also for the larger picture I exist in, county wide. I might even venture to say more then the average person, in many diverse roles.


You seem to be confused. It appears you are implying the proceeds are going to Patchin? How do you know this? I believe BCD when all is said and calculated, donate much of their proceeds back to the town.

Jim if you're out there, let us know...

I am not throwing stones at you... I defend or 'throw stones' at those who enjoy degrading and belittling those who contribute so much to this community. I apologize if I have offended you! :)

[sneakers77]

I believe BCD when all is said and calculated, donate much of their proceeds back to the town.

I'm pretty sure that it would be illegal for BCD to donate the proceeds back to the Town of Boston according to NYS law.

The town may have an account set up to handle the money but that would be about it.

And if that is true a simple FOIL request could find the amount in the account.

Or, like you said, maybe Mr. Pluta could inform interested parties and save someone the trouble..........................

[BostonPatriot]

You seem to be confused. It appears you are implying the proceeds are going to Patchin? How do you know this? I believe BCD when all is said and calculated, donate much of their proceeds back to the town.

Jim if you're out there, let us know...

I am not throwing stones at you... I defend or 'throw stones' at those who enjoy degrading and belittling those who contribute so much to this community. I apologize if I have offended you! :)

When Sneakers mentioned the website where you can go online and see Not For Profit Organizations 990s- I went online and saw the Patchin Fire Company and Community Association. They list line items in their income from Community Days. You are right. Maybe Jim could clarify it, because reading it and forming an interpretation could be different then what it really is. As I understand NFP- The Community Days Committee could (maybe should) file thier own 990 to avoid any kind of confusion. Otherwise, it appears quite clearly- that Pathin uses this as income.
You would think if they dontated proceeds back to the town- they would promote that.

But if Jim answers/clarifies the issue, this could be put to bed.

[sneakers77]

Sorry, my last post should have read "FOIA" instead of "FOIL"................

[james pluta]

I said I wouldn't respond to anymore post on this site. Many of you have approached me and asked me to look at what’s being said. It pains me a great deal how some of you find enjoyment in tearing down organizations and people. I know that I enjoy living in the Town of Boston and REALLY do want to help. What I don't like is all of the political tones that everything has to have.

Here are the answers that you all have been looking for:

1) Boston community Days was formed when the last Chairman of Boston Hillfest ( Steve Tills) called me and asked if the fire company would take over the event.

2) The Patchin Fire Company runs the event.

3) A committee was formed with residents and firemen to run the event; this committee still does exist and is responsible for running the event.

4) The event was setup so that ALL not for profit organizations could come in and raise money for their organizations.

5) This is list of organizations that have benefited from the event:
A) Boy Scouts
B) Girl Scouts
C) Make A Wish
D) K-9 Helpers for the Handicap
E) Boston Baseball
F) Boston Fire Company
G) North Boston Fire Company
H) Colden Fire Company
I) Shriners
J) Boys and Girls Club
k) Patchin Ladies Aux.
L) St. Johns Catholic Chruch
M) Mercy Flight
N) West Falls Fire Company
O) Boston Emergency Squad

6) The Town of Boston gives money to be used for fireworks and doesn't go into the Fire company treasury. Many surrounding Towns pay for fireworks so the residents can enjoy them.

7) No, we don't write a check to the Town.

8) I may be the Chairman but ALL decisions are made by the Committee

9) The Fireworks were cancelled for safety reasons. The Fireworks Company showed up at 2:30, there was a severe thunderstorm warning until 8 PM. and a 60% chance of thunderstorms until 10 PM. For the safety of the firework workers and the residents a decision was made by the committee.

10) Yes, the committee is disappointed at crowed but who could blame them with the horrible weather that we had.


Have a nice day,
Jim Pluta

PS- Don't ask me anymore.......if you want the answers JOIN.

[sneakers77]

Gee, thanks for the answers Jim.

Now remember kiddies, no more questions for Mr. Pluta, he is an elected official after all.................

[Iknow]

Question Jim:

at the end of each night at Patchin Community Days, who grabs all the cash and counts it? Are there any check and balances? or is just you and your wife Sheery counting it?

[crabapples]

Man, you guys need to run someone against this Pluta guy. Seems like a real piece of work. Not that my elected officials are much better (Cheektowaga) but this guy is the headmaster of clown school. You should use his postings on here against him since he is so arrogant.

[Iknow]

Funny thing is rumor has it Pluta is going to run for supervisor against Eagan in 2009. From one corrupt clown to another.

CAMPAIGN 2009 GET RID OF EAGAN HAWKINS AND DOBSON
OUT WITH THE OLD AND IN WITH THE YOUNG.

[crabapples]

Funny thing is rumor has it Pluta is going to run for supervisor against Eagan in 2009. From one corrupt clown to another.

CAMPAIGN 2009 GET RID OF EAGAN HAWKINS AND DOBSON
OUT WITH THE OLD AND IN WITH THE YOUNG.

This guy cant even run a community days committee, how is he qualified to run a town?

[Justbecuz]

Is he qualified to run a town?

I guess no answers means know one knows? :confused: Maybe he has on the job training? :confused: