Why does ANY union at all have access to the DMV records

[WNYresident]

I think this will get you to the video clip (http://www.wgrz.com/video/vplayer.aspx?aid=43139&sid=56974&bw=hi&cat=2) of the local 17 issue.

WHY would they have access from the state to the DMV computers?

I though they "weren't" part of the government. Why would they have access to government records at that level?

[LHardy]

OK WTF!

Who and how do they get permission from the state to search DMV records?
What NYS law or regulation allows this?

This is where an eye for an eye should apply.

[keyboard150]

There probably is no New York State law. Inf fact, some politician probably helped them obtain this information! The unions run this state, so they can do whatever they want. Haven't you learned that by now?

[LHardy]

There probably is no New York State law. Inf fact, some politician probably helped them obtain this information! The unions run this state, so they can do whatever they want. Haven't you learned that by now?

Me? Yes. I have first hand experience with that.

The question remains is who. From the statement made by the Fed it sounded as if this was allowed by some unknown provision in state law.

[4music]

WGRZ.com http://origin.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=56980 had an explaination:

Prosecutors say threats such as "we know where you live"... did not ring hollow because union operatives were able to glean personal information about their alleged targets through of all places the State Department of Motor Vehicles.

Erie County Clerk Kathy Hochul, who operates the local DMV offices on behalf of the state, says a number of entities often request driving records and personal information about motorists. They include, but are not limited to, potential employers, insurance companies, and attorneys involved in legal matters.

"Someone in this Operating Engineers Union, for example, would have a legitimate right to know whether someone coming to work for them has a commercial driver's license," she said.

The information can be had by filing an MV-15 form, which can readily be obtained from a rack of forms in an auto licensing bureau.

By filling it out and submitting a nominal fee, the applicant can then secure personal information about another individual , so long as they are also willing to sign a section that certifies they are doing so for "legitimate" reasons and in compliance with the Federal Driver's Privacy Protection Act.

"Personal information", as defined by the statute means information that identifies an individual, including an individual's photograph, social security number, driver identification number, name, address (but not the 5-digit zip code), telephone number, and medical or disability information.


The Act includes provisions for civil penalties against those who falsely represent themselves as having legitimate interests or who would use the information they find to harm another.

While all for the "free flow" of information, Hochul thinks that perhaps lawmakers should be investigating measures to further protect the privacy of drivers to safeguard against potential abuse.

Please Note that I'm not endorsing these union tactics. I'm just letting you know how they got personal info.

[gorja]

Originally posted by LHardy:
The question remains is who. From the statement made by the Fed it sounded as if this was allowed by some unknown provision in state law.



http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/dialin.htm

A Dial-in Search Account provides you with on-line access to DMV records. You can also use a Dial-in Search Account to request DMV records by mail. Any person or organization can apply for an account and a certification to use the service.


I never knew there was accessibility like this allowed.

[WNYresident]

Cathy isn't making sense.

Why would someone be allowed to "reverse" lookup someone's license plate?

They would ALREADY know who the person is by name if someone applied for a job etc. This is the other way around isn't it?

You see license plates at a work site and then you want to know who owns the car. WHY would the DMV give that out?

IF someone was Edward Ficklestien and applied for a job they would just have to look up his driving record. They wouldn't have a license plate and say "hey we want to hire that guy lets see who he is"... see what I mean.

[run4it]

Cathy isn't making sense.

Why would someone be allowed to "reverse" lookup someone's license plate?

I've had to do this before in a hit-and-run scenario.

[WNYresident]

I've had to do this before in a hit-and-run scenario.

You gave the information to the police and wouldn't they look it up?

You mean I can just go to the mall and take a plate number down and get the info?

[mesue]

It think it should be treated like a credit report. I should be able to access my account and see who has been looking at my records.

[Trolls_r_us]

I would just tell the thugs that what they can do, I can do better, so be careful who you threaten.

[sharky]

"Someone in this Operating Engineers Union, for example, would have a legitimate right to know whether someone coming to work for them has a commercial driver's license," she said.

and that's all they should see, what class license they have
not address, license number or anything else

[WNYresident]

and that's all they should see, what class license they have
not address, license number or anything else

Exactly. That's far different than being about to run someone's plate's to see where they live.

They should have login records to see where they were doing this from or which account was used.

[GG716]

When the DMV was audited in 2006 the union virtually stopped making these requests. It's not hard to find out about someone actually it's quite easy with just a little bit of info. Put some of that together and you can find almost anything out online.
Now these guys used ONLY license plates to find out the information and had access well beyond what was avalible to the public.
Obtaning information on someone may not be legal but it's quite easy.


Buffalo allows anyone to check for paid and unpaid parking tickets with simply
a license plate at:
www.ci.buffalo.ny.us/Home/CityServices/ParkingTickets


If a license is suspended or if someone has to pay a "driver responsibility assement" for multiple tickets, dui, etc... with only a name, DOB & last 4of a SSN at:
www.dmv.state.ny.us/draweb/pmtrenterdrvinfo.cfm


If someone has a DBA, INC, divorce, morgage and ammount, owns a house, ammount, address, has a lien, etc... With only part of a last name through the county clerks web site at:
www.ecclerk.erie.gov:9080/prod_public_view/login.jsp


If someone has been in a state jail/prison, why and when they got out at:
www.nysdocslookup.docs.state.ny.us

[mesue]

It think it should be treated like a credit report. I should be able to access my account and see who has been looking at my records.
I still think I should have the ability to see who is looking at my DMV information.