Pluta & Eagan Trying To Control Everything

[Iknow]

Councilman Pluta noted that voucher #109 on the abstract has an overage of $.17. He asked Supervisor Eagan if there was a purchase request for voucher #107.

Supervisor Eagan stated that there was not a purchase order request submitted for voucher #107. He stated that Highway Superintendent Telaak came into his office the day before he rented this equipment stating that we needed to buy a bucket truck. Supervisor Eagan stated that he could not justify spending thousands of dollars on a used bucket truck for one or two days a year. He asked Highway Superintendent Telaak how much it would cost to rent a bucket truck until they could determine reasons to purchase one. He then directed Highway Superintendent Telaak to look into the cost of renting and get back to him. In the meantime, Supervisor Eagan spoke with the Hamburg and Concord Highway Superintendents that same day. Both offered their bucket trucks and asked to have Highway Superintendent Telaak call them. He noted that he does not know why Highway Superintendent Telaak did not call them. He stated that he feels the expense of over $500 was uncalled for and it violated the purchase policy.
Councilman Pluta reiterated that there should have been a purchase request submitted for this purchase.

Supervisor Eagan stated that Highway Superintendent Telaak did not have authorization to rent the bucket truck.

A motion was made by Councilman Pluta and seconded by Supervisor Eagan, upon review by the Town Board, that fund bills on the Abstract dated January 31, 2008 in the amount of $132,138.92 be paid which excludes voucher #107 in the amount of $564.50 and voucher #109 in the amount of $.17.

I though Telaak was an elected official with his own budget? Why does Eagan and Pluta have to stick there big noses in everything? I assume the bucket truck was used to hang the half lit christmas lights. Watch out Telaak there out to get you becasue you placed you picture with the Republicans. So who is going to pay for voucher 109 and 107??? Same old crap different Board Member.

LESS THAT TWO YEARS OF EAGANISM

[Iknow]

CODE BOOK REVISION DISCUSSION
Mrs. Hacker said that Supervisor Eagan would like this done by the March 19, 2008 Town Board meeting.
Secretary Faulring: Are we still supposed to send all revisions to Sherrie Pluta?
Mr. Downey: Send them directly to Supervisor Eagan.


interesting..

[james pluta]

IKNOW,
You pretend to know what you're talking about when you really don't know whats going on. I was elected to represent us and watch for wastefull spending.
The town of Boston has a procurment policy in place that affects all departments. This was passed after the Town Highway went through a rough time a few years ago. We only need to look at whats going on in Marrilla today, to understand that we all need to be on gaurd for allleged abuses in our Towns. This policy WAS not intended to hinder goverment or punish anyone, but was passed to protect everyone.
Mr. Telaak does have a highway budget but still needs to approval on certain items and amounts as outlined in the policy. But I would like to remined everyone that Mr. Telaak wears two hats, one as Highway supervisor and the other as Parks Supervisor. There lies the problem with the bucket truck rental, Mr. Telaak acted as the Parks Supervisor( and remember these are his own words) and in this capacity he needed prior approval for the rental.Deosn't anyone else find it funny that Mr. Telaak was able to get a truck from Town of Concord to put them up, but had problems getting them down? Mr. Telaak also stated that the Town of Hamburg came trough too late, does anyone know when they were called? Also everyone should know that he called the parks workers the week before to arrange for them to come in. Why did he ask the Supervisor the day before taking them down what to do about a truck?
As to bill #109 that was paid minus the .17 cents.Please read the minutes better.

As to why Mr. Downey told the Planning Board to send the changes to Supervisor Eagan, I don't know. My wife is still rewritting the code book.

If you don't think that I should be looking out for the tax payers dollar, then you must have more money to burn than I do.

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN after the TRUTH

[Iknow]

I read the minutes actually I read right throught the minutes and I see exactly what you and Eagan are trying to do. You and "Little Hilter" are out to get him and make him look bad, its classic Eaganism. Lets take a look at what you have done over at Patchin Fire Company during your reign.


Community Days:
2005-
Gross Income $9,324
Expenses $4,302
Net Income $5,022

2006-
Gross Income $13,378
Expenses $6,289
Net Income $7,089

2007-
Gross Income $13,068
Expenses $6,388
Net Income $6,680

Debtload:

2005
New York State Low Interest Loan Truck 6
Begin 2005 $108,820 Year End $94,402
Evans National Bank Truck 6
Begin 2005 $132,525 Year End $115,959
Evans National Bank Truck 7
Begin 2005 $19,900 Year End $16,282
Mortgage for Hall
Begin 2005 $139,882 Year End $125,257

Totals:
Begin year 2005 Debt load $401,127 End $351,900


2006
New York State Low Interest Loan Truck 6
Begin 2005 $94,402 Year End $79,623
Evans National Bank Truck 6
Begin 2005 $115,959 Year End $91,111
Evans National Bank Truck 7
Begin 2005 $16,282 Year End $12,491
Mortgage for Hall
Begin 2005 $125,257 Year End $109,945

Totals:
Begin year 2006 Debt load $351,900 End $293,170

2007
New York State Low Interest Loan Truck 6
Begin 2005 $79,623 Year End $64,475
Evans National Bank Truck 6
Begin 2005 $91,111 Year End $82,828
Evans National Bank Truck 7
Begin 2005 $12,491 Year End $8,520
Mortgage for Hall
Begin 2007 $109,945 Year End $93,913

Totals:
Begin year 2007 Debt load $293,170 End $249,736


Building Mortgage 15 year Mortgage
Borrowed $215,000 5-1-1997 int rate 4.810

Now Jim whats the cost of the two new trucks you ordered?? Looks like alot more debt to me.. So I am very concerned why you are so worried about 17 cents.. I am concerned my taxes went up for fire protection and now fire protection is as much as the Highway Budget. Does that make sense??

Have you talked to Telaak yourself or is all your info from Eagan?

[Iknow]

Procurement Procedure ya right..

Eagan hands our contracts all the time with only one cost to his buddies most recently to an engineering firm for waterline design. There is no finacing in place, whos gonna foot the bill? The tax payers...

[james pluta]

IKNOW,
I don't know of any fire company that doesn't carry a debt. No fire company could pay for apperatus or a building with cash.

The fire companies budgets are actually lower than the highway budget. You don't see the extra funds that the highway gets for additional services.

Your numbers from community days are incorrect and all of the fire companies in Town hold fund raisers.

Why is it that you only list Patchin, what about the other fire companies debts?

My information is from Mr. Telaak himself, of course thats only when he decides to show up for meeetings.

I wish that everyone on this site would only be fair and honest. Everyone continues to single out the Patchin Fire Company when in fact all of the Fire Companies in Town operate in pretty much the same manner. We all have the same needs for buildings, the same need for updated equipment, and the same personel needs. Boston and North Boston are building new buildings. Boston and North Boston just recently purchased new trucks.

As for the Telaak situation I have grown tired of it and we all need to move on.

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN after the TRUTH

[james pluta]

Iknow,
I would like to qualify my last post. I'm not sure where you got the Community Days numbers from ,but they maybe correct. But in the larger picture you don't tell everyone how hard we have to work for that. We spend all year preparing for the event we hold monthly committee meetings and towards the beginning of the event bi-monthly meetings. It takes us three days to set up, one day to tear down. The fireman work three days at the event. In all told we put about 500 man hours into the event. The fire company does this event to showcase the community, the money is secondary.

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN after the TRUTH

[Iknow]

I single out Patchin as an example. I believe the debt is outragous. The trucks, the halls, its all outragous. Its time to get some real business leaders in the Town of Boston Government to clean house and to stop the special interest group spending. ie. engineering firms, fire companies, recreation, Police Barrack spending etc...

Answer the question: How much are the two new trucks? How much more in debt will the Patchin Fire Company be in?

I only look at the tax bill.. Fire Proptection is as much as Highway Budget. I am not sure how much more Highway gets behind the scenes but I am sure the public would like to know, can you answer that for us? Or are you tired of it?

HERES A CONCEPT REDUCE TAXES NOT INCREASE THEM FOR THE SAME OLD SERVICES.

[james pluta]

IKNOW,
Why aren't you outraged that the Highway Department has over $500,000 in surplus money? This was announced at last nights Board meeting by Mr. Telaak. After all isn't this your money?

I would be more than happy to answer your other questions, as soon as you ask all of the other services in Town the same questions. Why don't you use one of them as your examples?

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN after the THRUTH

[Iknow]

typical politician AVOIDING THE QUESTION!!

it will come out sooner or later, it will be public info soon.

surplus seems like a good thing to me. Means he didnt spend spend spend till its all gone and then ask for more, oh thats right the Fire Company doesnt have to ask anymore, they have you and Hawkins on the board sliding through increases. Makes me sick... who cares about the poor retired on fixed incomes..

[sneakers77]

IKNOW,
Why aren't you outraged that the Highway Department has over $500,000 in surplus money?

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN after the THRUTH

Dear Jim,

Is this surplus money, or an unexpended balance from the 2007 budget that Mr. Telaak was speaking of?

yourpal
sneakers77

[james pluta]

IKNOW,
How sad and pathetic your life must be. You spend your time spinning the typical POLITICAL RETHORIC of the politics of the past. When will your kind wake up and finally realize that the people are tired of same old recycled garbage. Instead of waking up and trying to improve the government you continue to choose to bash, spin half truths and personal attacks to try to accomplish anything.

Your garbage about attacking the emergency services in town sickens and appalls me. The emergency services are made up of a group of volunteers whose dedication is endless, and makes our town a safer place to live in. Why don’t you at least try to get your facts right, look around and you’ll find that most towns fire taxes are bigger than the Highways tax. What people see on their tax bill is only the Highways taxable income NOT the true Highway budget. The Town of Boston is set up as a fire protection district. The Fire companies are PRIVATE NOT FOR PROFIT CORPERATIONS, not Town owned agencies. The Patchin Fire Company is currently replacing a truck that is 22 years old, and the body is rotting out. How can anyone tell me that’s a waste of money? Is your car or truck 22 years old?

IKNOW you want more answers than what I can give. I cannot talk about the Fire Companies Business, they are a private corporation, and have rules and regulations that I must follow. You apparently know where to find it.

I do care about the retired on fixed incomes as I care about all the Town Residents. I have been a registered Republican all of my life, and hold strong to a lot of their values. I want LOWER TAXS, CUT WASTFUL SPENDING, and HELP OUR TOWN GROW IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER, CUT THE RED TAPE SO BUSSINESS CAN MOVE INTO OUR VACANT BUILDINGS. I think there are more ways to reduce spending and lower our taxes but we need ALL of the departments working together to accomplish this. But I am upset that we have a surplus of more than $500,000 in one department and mostly from being overtaxed. I do believe that there should be a surplus for emergencies, but this exceeds the States limits, and some should have been given back to the tax payer.
.

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN AFTER THE TRUTH

[sneakers77]

Dear Jim,

Who approves the Highway Budget?

yourpal
sneakers77

[Iknow]

I am sick and tired of the same old political answers from you. Jim you have learned alot under Eagan's tiny wing.

What truck is getting replaced the one that sits on the hill and never responds because you make all the voluteers run to the valley to take out the ladder truck? How many trucks does this town need?? There are more trucks in Boston that in all of the town of Hamburg. Spend, spend, spend, keep on spending...

[james pluta]

I am sick and tired of the same old political answers from you. Jim you have learned alot under Eagan's tiny wing.

What truck is getting replaced the one that sits on the hill and never responds because you make all the voluteers run to the valley to take out the ladder truck? How many trucks does this town need?? There are more trucks in Boston that in all of the town of Hamburg. Spend, spend, spend, keep on spending...

IKNOW,
The trouble with trying to talk to you in a sensible manner is that you have no sense. You continue to tell the same old garbage as if your half truths are the truth. You must be a delusional person who must tell lies to make themselves feel better or to make themselves feel like an important person.

Unlike you I can think on my own and make my own decisions. I don't need anyone to tell me what to do.

You make yourself sound like a real idiot with statements like the Town of Boston has more trucks than the Town of Hamburg. Why don't you try to tell the truth for once, not your lies like everyone responds to the valley. How stupid are you?

I've tried to have a reasonable exchange of opinions with you, but I can no longer try.

Someone once told me that’s it hard to argue with an IDIOT, and you fit the bill.

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN after the TRUTH

[sneakers77]

Jim,

Having trouble answering my easy questions, or is Eagans cell phone busy?

yourpal
sneakers77

[crabapples]

Jim,

Having trouble answering my easy questions, or is Eagans cell phone busy?

yourpal
sneakers77

Appears he cant answer your questions. Seem like simple, yet confusing questions for Mr. Pluta.

I heard from a friend that the Boston Town Park near Town Hall is in shambles. How sad is that? Your own citizens have to go to other towns to use their parks bc the ones their tax dollars are supposed to support are neglected.... Shame on the Town of Boston!

[sneakers77]

Appears he cant answer your questions. Seem like simple, yet confusing questions for Mr. Pluta.

I heard from a friend that the Boston Town Park near Town Hall is in shambles. How sad is that? Your own citizens have to go to other towns to use their parks bc the ones their tax dollars are supposed to support are neglected.... Shame on the Town of Boston!

Shame on the voters, they keep electing the Eagan puppets. Maybe the Republicans will take the board back in two years and put the town back on the right track. Granted, the Republicans hit a few bumps in the road over the years, but at the end of the day the residents were proud to call Boston home. Lately its nothing but dirty politics....................But then again, should the residents expect anything less?

[james pluta]

I heard from a friend that the Boston Town Park near Town Hall is in shambles. How sad is that? Your own citizens have to go to other towns to use their parks bc the ones their tax dollars are supposed to support are neglected.... Shame on the Town of Boston!

Crabapples,

I don't know if his cell phone is busy, why don't you call it yourself?

Why don't you answer one simple question for me, who's been in charge of the parks for the last 4 years?

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN after the TRUTH

[Justbecuz]

There are more trucks in Boston that in all of the town of Hamburg.

Did you run out of piggys and fingers to count on? :confused:

.

[crabapples]

Crabapples,

I don't know if his cell phone is busy, why don't you call it yourself?

Why don't you answer one simple question for me, who's been in charge of the parks for the last 4 years?

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN after the TRUTH

No idea who has been in charge of your towns parks. I dont live there. I just relayed a message I heard.

As for the cell phone i could care less. I simply said you dont seem to be answering sneakers' questions.

[Iknow]

Here it is folks Jim Pluta's true colors, Calling a concerned Boston citizen an Idiot. Not very Christian like Jim coming from someone that said he goes to church everyday....

"You make yourself sound like a real idiot with statements like the Town of Boston has more trucks than the Town of Hamburg. Why don't you try to tell the truth for once, not your lies like everyone responds to the valley. How stupid are you?"

This is the type of politician the town of boston has elected. I am telling the truth Jim, but it hurts you when the real truth comes out.

[james pluta]

I'm sorry folks, but someone makes statements like the Town of Boston has more fire trucks than the Town of Hamburg, their sense of reality has gone away. The Town of Boston has three companies, Boston, North Boston, and Patchin. The Town of Hamburg has seven, Village of Hamburg, Scratton, Woodlawn, Newton Abbott, Big Tree, Lakeview, and Lake Shore. And when IKNOW tries to argue that thier point is the truth, well then they are an IDIOT. Like I said thier's no sense in argueing with an IDIOT!!

If you don't want a politician to speak the truth than don't vote for me!!!!!!!!

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN after the TRUTH

[BostonPatriot]

Actually Jim in support of your accounting- it appears the Town of Hamburg employs 9 Volunteer Fire Departments- 7 from in the town, and 2 Villages:
Armor-Big Tree-Vill of Blasdell-Vill of Hamburg- Lake Shore- Lake View- Newton Abbott- Scranton- Woodlawn
With those Companies, according to information gathered on the internet, it looks like they have the following appartus:
Armor-4 "trucks"
Big Tree-5 "trucks"
Blasdell- 5 "trucks"
Hamburg- 9 "trucks"
Lake Shore- 5 "trucks"
Lake View- 5 "trucks"
Newton Abbott- 5 "trucks"
Scranton- 6 "trucks"
Woodlawn- 4 "trucks"

Total in Hamburg: 48 "trucks"

Last time we discussed this, I believe we were in the area of 14 or so vehicles in Boston..............adding in the ambulances it would make it 16.

[james pluta]

To the Firemen in Armor and the Village of Blasdell, my sincere apologies. I didn't mean to slight you.

Jim Pluta

[crabapples]

So who has been in charge of the parks for the past four years? And why havent you done anything about it?

[The War Is ON]

I am sick and tired of the same old political answers from you.

What truck is getting replaced the one that sits on the hill and never responds because you make all the voluteers run to the valley to take out the ladder truck? How many trucks does this town need?? There are more trucks in Boston that in all of the town of Hamburg.

You must be the most ignorant person on the planet earth. BTW, just getting started with your STUPID COMMENTS!!!! ;)

[The War Is ON]

Shame on the voters, they keep electing the Eagan puppets. Maybe the Republicans will take the board back in two years and put the town back on the right track. Granted, the Republicans hit a few bumps in the road over the years, but at the end of the day the residents were proud to call Boston home. Lately its nothing but dirty politics....................But then again, should the residents expect anything less?


You are a real piece of work, your asking public knowledge questions. Figure it out yourself MISS MINUTES!! STOP APOLIGIZING FOR YOU POLITICAL F----UPS FROM THE PAST REGIMINE. Bumps in the road, what a joke!!!

[sneakers77]

You are a real piece of work, your asking public knowledge questions. Figure it out yourself MISS MINUTES!! STOP APOLIGIZING FOR YOU POLITICAL F----UPS FROM THE PAST REGIMINE. Bumps in the road, what a joke!!!

Welcome back. I have missed your blissful ignorance of town politics.

[The War Is ON]

No idea who has been in charge of your towns parks. I dont live there. I just relayed a message I heard.

As for the cell phone i could care less. I simply said you dont seem to be answering sneakers' questions.


Mr. Telaak is in charge of the parks, ask him about any issues you might have. Oh sorry, the people on this website support Bob, so they will continue to BLAME EVERYBODY ELSE without telling the public who is in charge of the parks department!!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

sneakers, iknow, justbecause, Hopkins, and any other people that spread the lies and deceit that these IDIOTS do, GO FIND A LIFE!!

[The War Is ON]

Welcome back. I have missed your blissful ignorance of town politics.

..your problem, it's all about politics!!!!!!!

[sneakers77]

..your problem, it's all about politics!!!!!!!

And the truth, don't forget about the truth.

yourpal
sneakers77

[Iknow]

How about the Town of Boston has more trucks than the Town of Orchard Park..

[BostonPatriot]

How about the Town of Boston has more trucks than the Town of Orchard Park..

Below is a recent photo of the OP Fire District Vehicles-----I count 15 in the photo below.....
http://www.orchardparkfiredistrict.com/images/uploads/Firetrucks2Color.jpg

In addition to the EMS Ambulances and Medic Fly Car, another 4 vehicles....
http://www.orchardparkfiredistrict.com/images/uploads/Firetrucks3Color.jpg

That would make 19 then in OP?

Boston is still at......14, plus 2 ambulances...16.

[BostonPatriot]

Actually Jim in support of your accounting- it appears the Town of Hamburg employs 9 Volunteer Fire Departments- 7 from in the town, and 2 Villages:
Armor-Big Tree-Vill of Blasdell-Vill of Hamburg- Lake Shore- Lake View- Newton Abbott- Scranton- Woodlawn
With those Companies, according to information gathered on the internet, it looks like they have the following appartus:
Armor-4 "trucks"
Big Tree-5 "trucks"
Blasdell- 5 "trucks"
Hamburg- 9 "trucks"
Lake Shore- 5 "trucks"
Lake View- 5 "trucks"
Newton Abbott- 5 "trucks"
Scranton- 6 "trucks"
Woodlawn- 4 "trucks"

Total in Hamburg: 48 "trucks"

Last time we discussed this, I believe we were in the area of 14 or so vehicles in Boston..............adding in the ambulances it would make it 16.


To be fair and compare apples to apples:

Armor-Big Tree-Vill of Blasdell-Vill of Hamburg- Lake Shore- Lake View- Newton Abbott- Scranton- Woodlawn
With those Companies, according to information gathered on the internet, it looks like they have the following appartus:
Armor-4 "trucks" plus one Chief's vehicle
Big Tree-5 "trucks" plus one Chief's vehicle
Blasdell- 5 "trucks"
Hamburg- 9 "trucks" plus one Chief's vehicle
Lake Shore- 5 "trucks" plus two Chief's Vehicles
Lake View- 5 "trucks" Plus 3 Chief's Vehicles
Newton Abbott- 5 "trucks" Plus 3 Chief's Vehicles
Scranton- 6 "trucks" Plus 3 Chief's Vehicles
Woodlawn- 4 "trucks" Plus 1 Chief's Vehicle

Total in Hamburg: 48 "trucks" and 15 Chief's Vehicles

Last time we discussed this, I believe we were in the area of 14 or so vehicles in Boston..............adding in the ambulances it would make it 16.No Chief's Vehicles

Now the numbers are more in line with Orchard Park's, as Chief's vehicles were included in that count.....

[Justbecuz]

How nice it is to open the " Hamburg Sun " and once again find our great Town in the headlines? " Dispute continues in Town of Boston"

This once again proves we elected kids into office. Bashing, name calling, all childish games !!! Get real people, you have a Town to run. There are other important issues here to take care of. Like you all (Town politicians) are on the up and up, give me a break.. I'm sure, if you have someone look deep into things, you'll find more crap on someone or something. What will the next write up be about ?? Our New and improved code book? :confused:

When you go into other community's and have people say..... Wow, you guys have serious problems out there with your Town leaders, don't you. My reply, yes we do!

Sad, people ---- Very, very Sad! :(

[Iknow]

from the picture I count 10 fire trucks, I dont count chief SUV's because we dont have any in Boston YET... I believe one new patchin truck is a chief heavy duty truck. Am I right Jim?

So Boston does have more "Fire Trucks" than Orchard Park.

The articles in the papers are really making these politicians look exaclty like they are. A bunch of power hungry back stabbing idiots.

[crabapples]

Mr. Telaak is in charge of the parks, ask him about any issues you might have. Oh sorry, the people on this website support Bob, so they will continue to BLAME EVERYBODY ELSE without telling the public who is in charge of the parks department!!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

sneakers, iknow, justbecause, Hopkins, and any other people that spread the lies and deceit that these IDIOTS do, GO FIND A LIFE!!

Are you saying that as a Town Board member you have no say or pull in fixing up YOUR Town's Parks?

I dont even know who Bob is, never met him before. I find it funny that you say people blame "everybody else" when you are laying blame on someone yourself. You are an elected official.

Are you just going to let a bridge deteriorate and collapse because the Town Engineer isnt doing his job? Or are you going to stand up for your electorate and taxpayers?

[crabapples]

Below is a recent photo of the OP Fire District Vehicles-----I count 15 in the photo below.....
http://www.orchardparkfiredistrict.com/images/uploads/Firetrucks2Color.jpg

In addition to the EMS Ambulances and Medic Fly Car, another 4 vehicles....
http://www.orchardparkfiredistrict.com/images/uploads/Firetrucks3Color.jpg

That would make 19 then in OP?

Boston is still at......14, plus 2 ambulances...16.

So Boston has 16 EMS vehicles for how many people?

OP has 19 for how many people? And dont forget OP includes Ralph Wilson Stadium and ECC South..... just saying....

[BostonPatriot]

So Boston has 16 EMS vehicles for how many people?

OP has 19 for how many people? And dont forget OP includes Ralph Wilson Stadium and ECC South..... just saying....

Boston has 16 Emergency Services Vehicles...14 Fire Department vehicles-2 ambulances.... OP has 19 Emergency Services vehicles....which includes 3 ambulances and 1 Paramedic Fly Car.

Yeah, big deal about the Ralph. The thing that sits vacant for how many days a year? And when they do have events in it, Rural Metro is contracted with providing EMS during events. Windom proived Fire Service, and works with RMA in the lots during the games......ECC South- the only thing in OP is the football field. All the rest is in the Town of Hamburg.

[crabapples]

Boston has 16 Emergency Services Vehicles...14 Fire Department vehicles-2 ambulances.... OP has 19 Emergency Services vehicles....which includes 3 ambulances and 1 Paramedic Fly Car.

Yeah, big deal about the Ralph. The thing that sits vacant for how many days a year? And when they do have events in it, Rural Metro is contracted with providing EMS during events. Windom proived Fire Service, and works with RMA in the lots during the games......ECC South- the only thing in OP is the football field. All the rest is in the Town of Hamburg.

So your saying that the OP fire departments arent mutual aiding Windom for Bills games? You dont think that OP mutual aids for the entire ECC South campus?

But back to my other point that you chose to ignore:

OP has a population of 28,136 people according to the US Census estimate in 2006.

Boston has a population of 7,847.

So the number of people served by vehicles per capita is:

OP: 1,480.8
Boston: 490.4

Why is it that OP can cover nearly 1,000 more people per vehicle than Boston? A little disproportionate dont you think?

[crabapples]

Are you saying that as a Town Board member you have no say or pull in fixing up YOUR Town's Parks?

I dont even know who Bob is, never met him before. I find it funny that you say people blame "everybody else" when you are laying blame on someone yourself. You are an elected official.

Are you just going to let a bridge deteriorate and collapse because the Town Engineer isnt doing his job? Or are you going to stand up for your electorate and taxpayers?

No response to this from Pluta or The War Is On?

[BostonPatriot]

from the picture I count 10 fire trucks, I dont count chief SUV's because we dont have any in Boston YET... I believe one new patchin truck is a chief heavy duty truck. Am I right Jim?

So Boston does have more "Fire Trucks" than Orchard Park.

The articles in the papers are really making these politicians look exaclty like they are. A bunch of power hungry back stabbing idiots.

The photos are of the Orchard Park Fire District Vehicles, not Boston....but I will agree with you on the antics of the elected officials. I abrupty change the subject when people start up about being from Boston.

[BostonPatriot]

So your saying that the OP fire departments arent mutual aiding Windom for Bills games? You dont think that OP mutual aids for the entire ECC South campus?

But back to my other point that you chose to ignore:

OP has a population of 28,136 people according to the US Census estimate in 2006.

Boston has a population of 7,847.

So the number of people served by vehicles per capita is:

OP: 1,480.8
Boston: 490.4

Why is it that OP can cover nearly 1,000 more people per vehicle than Boston? A little disproportionate dont you think?

I did not choose to ignore, just didn't feel it was an issue as it relates to the conversation. Without getting into a long winded explanation, you are not comparing apples to apples. It is not like the good humor ice cream truck serving popsicle to neighborhood kids. Once they got to a certain number of kids served, nobody else gets popsicles......Each vehicle serves a purpose, such as Boston Fire Company's Tanker- to serve where there are no hydrants. That is not the case in Orchard Park- where they do not have any tankers. There are specific functions of Orchard Park's vehicles as well that demographics are not present in Boston.

You are speaking Mutual Aid- not primary response district. There is a difference in the slant which you are coming from.

As for Mutual Aid @ The Raplh- that specific address is in Windom's District. In as much as Windom is part of the Orchard Park Fire District- should they need assistance, yes the other 2 Fire Departments would help, in addition to ones from Hamburg. But for the 10 Bills Games a year, well less now that they are going to Toronto for a few, only Rural Metro and Windom provide Emergency Medical Services and Fire Supression each and every game. They don't have the whole army standing by there.

ECC, sure, whomever Newton Abbott has selected to respond with them, which would include some of the Orchard Park Fire District, they would respond to assist.

[crabapples]

I did not choose to ignore, just didn't feel it was an issue as it relates to the conversation. Without getting into a long winded explanation, you are not comparing apples to apples. It is not like the good humor ice cream truck serving popsicle to neighborhood kids. Once they got to a certain number of kids served, nobody else gets popsicles......Each vehicle serves a purpose, such as Boston Fire Company's Tanker- to serve where there are no hydrants. That is not the case in Orchard Park- where they do not have any tankers. There are specific functions of Orchard Park's vehicles as well that demographics are not present in Boston.

You are speaking Mutual Aid- not primary response district. There is a difference in the slant which you are coming from.

As for Mutual Aid @ The Raplh- that specific address is in Windom's District. In as much as Windom is part of the Orchard Park Fire District- should they need assistance, yes the other 2 Fire Departments would help, in addition to ones from Hamburg. But for the 10 Bills Games a year, well less now that they are going to Toronto for a few, only Rural Metro and Windom provide Emergency Medical Services and Fire Supression each and every game. They don't have the whole army standing by there.

ECC, sure, whomever Newton Abbott has selected to respond with them, which would include some of the Orchard Park Fire District, they would respond to assist.

Ok so say we take the tanker truck out of the equation.
You still have 19 vehicles for OP and 15 for Boston. OP has a population 4x larger than Boston.

Clearly Boston has more fire trucks, etc than OP does when looking at it proportionately.

My whole point about the mutual aid, was that OPs fleet is used for large events in addition to its normal usage. Boston doesnt have large entities in its town.

[BostonPatriot]

Ok so say we take the tanker truck out of the equation.
You still have 19 vehicles for OP and 15 for Boston. OP has a population 4x larger than Boston.

Clearly Boston has more fire trucks, etc than OP does when looking at it proportionately.

My whole point about the mutual aid, was that OPs fleet is used for large events in addition to its normal usage. Boston doesnt have large entities in its town.

Chances are- most of the 80,000 people won't be on fire. Have you ever seen a concrete fish tank catch fire?

[Iknow]

you will not hear from Pluta now because the truth is coming out... its just a matter of time..

[crabapples]

Chances are- most of the 80,000 people won't be on fire. Have you ever seen a concrete fish tank catch fire?

So you wont even acknowledge that Boston has a much larger fleet of emergency vehicles than OP does per capita?

I have conceded the mutual aid argument to you, why cant you concede the above?

[The War Is ON]

Are you saying that as a Town Board member you have no say or pull in fixing up YOUR Town's Parks?

First of all I am not a town board member, so I do not have any "pull". What I can tell you is that I do volunteer my time at the parks when my time permits.

I dont even know who Bob is, never met him before. I find it funny that you say people blame "everybody else" when you are laying blame on someone yourself. You are an elected official.

You must have a hard time with comprehension. I said YOU people, refering to the four jackasses on this site that I refered to in a past post, also I am not blaming anybody, I'm friends with Bob and wonder why justbecause started all this non-sense about the parks when they are in pretty good shape. AGAIN I AM NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL!!

[sneakers77]

First of all I am not a town board member, so I do not have any "pull". What I can tell you is that I do volunteer my time at the parks when my time permits.



You must have a hard time with comprehension. I said YOU people, refering to the four jackasses on this site that I refered to in a past post, also I am not blaming anybody, I'm friends with Bob and wonder why justbecause started all this non-sense about the parks when they are in pretty good shape. AGAIN I AM NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL!!

Thank GOD:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[The War Is ON]

from the picture I count 10 fire trucks, I dont count chief SUV's because we dont have any in Boston YET... I believe one new patchin truck is a chief heavy duty truck.

So you can't count, or speak intelligently. NO PATCHIN DOES NOT HAVE A CHIEFS VEHICLE NOR WILL IT IN THE FORSEEABLE FUTURE!!!!

So Boston does have more "Fire Trucks" than Orchard Park.

They have online programs to help you with your math and language problems.

The articles in the papers are really making these politicians look exaclty like they are. A bunch of power hungry back stabbing idiots.

Again you make no sense, so I guess you are just a plain old IDIOT!!

[crabapples]

First of all I am not a town board member, so I do not have any "pull". What I can tell you is that I do volunteer my time at the parks when my time permits.



You must have a hard time with comprehension. I said YOU people, refering to the four jackasses on this site that I refered to in a past post, also I am not blaming anybody, I'm friends with Bob and wonder why justbecause started all this non-sense about the parks when they are in pretty good shape. AGAIN I AM NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL!!

My comments were more or less directed to Mr. Pluta who claims its this Bob guys fault the parks are in shambles. Again, I heard from a friend who lives in the town that the town hall park has inadequate playground equipment. Mr. Pluta can say its someone elses fault, but as a TB member, he should stop pointing fingers and start doing his duty to his constituents. I should have been clearer in my comments.

As for the comprehension part, I think you are the one with the problem. I didnt even comment on the portion where you called those 4 individuals out. I commented on your first paragraph. Go back and re-read it.

[Iknow]

So now Eagan has to authorize any loaning out of equipment. Its amazing how this guy can wear so many hats and control everything and hes got Pluta in his back pocket to make any pre-determined motions. OLV must give Jim a cell phone two, or maybe the town of boston gave him one now too...


A motion was made by Councilman Pluta and seconded by Councilwoman Dobson to authorize Supervisor Eagan to act on behalf of the Town Board to approve any lending or borrowing of equipment from surrounding municipalities.

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Supervisor Eagan asked Town Attorney Downey to explain to everyone what exactly the motion means.

Town Attorney Downey stated that the motion says that the Board has given the Supervisor the right to approve the lending and borrowing of town owned highway equipment with other towns.


things will reall get one now, good luck getting any authorization within 48hours.

LESS THAT TWO YEARS OF EAGANISM

[crabapples]

I think Eagan told Pluta he isnt allowed to comment on the Boston threads anymore.... probably got in trouble for it :)

[Justbecuz]

I think Eagan told Pluta he isnt allowed to comment on the Boston threads anymore.... probably got in trouble for it :)

Puppet!

[PVFC.EMS]

Or maybe hes too busy to deal with this useless bull****. OH! theres a thought.

[james pluta]

I think Eagan told Pluta he isnt allowed to comment on the Boston threads anymore.... probably got in trouble for it :)

No crabapples I wasn't told what to do. Peolple who really know me know I have a mind of my own. I have decided that this is my last post. I'm tired of all the lies and bull$$$$.


IKNOW, JUSTBECUZ, SNEAKERS77, you continue to be PUPPETS of the "good old boys", you're a dieing breed. You continue to use this site to promote your lies and personal attacks to promote a bunch of bull$$$$. Crawl out from under the rock that you all been living under, take a look around. The Town of Boston is growing and changing. Your kind has been losing elections because people grow tied of the same old crap.The two endorsed Republican candidates lost because they stuck with the same old party bull$$$$. Your the same kind who STOLE Cathy Magran and my signs because you were worried about some competition. You are the people who choose to divide our community, to drag it through the muck and mire. I have chosen to drag myself out of it, to work with all who truly want to make Boston a community that we can all be proud of!!!!!!

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN TRULY TIRED OF THE LIES

[sneakers77]

No crabapples I wasn't told what to do. Peolple who really know me know I have a mind of my own. I have decided that this is my last post. I'm tired of all the lies and bull$$$$.


IKNOW, JUSTBECUZ, SNEAKERS77, you continue to be PUPPETS of the "good old boys", you're a dieing breed. You continue to use this site to promote your lies and personal attacks to promote a bunch of bull$$$$. Crawl out from under the rock that you all been living under, take a look around. The Town of Boston is growing and changing. Your kind has been losing elections because people grow tied of the same old crap.The two endorsed Republican candidates lost because they stuck with the same old party bull$$$$. Your the same kind who STOLE Cathy Magran and my signs because you were worried about some competition. You are the people who choose to divide our community, to drag it through the muck and mire. I have chosen to drag myself out of it, to work with all who truly want to make Boston a community that we can all be proud of!!!!!!

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN TRULY TIRED OF THE LIES


Dear Jim,

OK, now I understand what your stance is:

1) Crucifying Highway Supt. Telaak at a public meeting about X-mas decorations is OK because it will make Boston a better community.

2) Crucifying Highway Supt. Telaak at a public meeting about town procurement policy is OK because it will make Boston a better community.

3) Taking away Highway Supt. Telaaks policy concerning shared resources is OK because it will make Boston a better community.

4) Bringing the Town of Boston almost to an absolute halt on development and growth is OK because it will make Boston a better community.

I, along with many other citizens within our community, are getting tired of your hackneyed ideas of the good old boys, lies, and looking for the truth.

If you truly wanted to drag yourself out of the muck and mire, why were you the head cheerleader crucifying Telaak at a public meeting?

You and I both know it could have been handled in executive session. But you and the board decided to make it a public spectacle in order to keep the real issues in this town under the radar. Wouldn't you agree?

yourpal
sneakers77

[crabapples]

No crabapples I wasn't told what to do. Peolple who really know me know I have a mind of my own. I have decided that this is my last post. I'm tired of all the lies and bull$$$$.


IKNOW, JUSTBECUZ, SNEAKERS77, you continue to be PUPPETS of the "good old boys", you're a dieing breed. You continue to use this site to promote your lies and personal attacks to promote a bunch of bull$$$$. Crawl out from under the rock that you all been living under, take a look around. The Town of Boston is growing and changing. Your kind has been losing elections because people grow tied of the same old crap.The two endorsed Republican candidates lost because they stuck with the same old party bull$$$$. Your the same kind who STOLE Cathy Magran and my signs because you were worried about some competition. You are the people who choose to divide our community, to drag it through the muck and mire. I have chosen to drag myself out of it, to work with all who truly want to make Boston a community that we can all be proud of!!!!!!

Jim Pluta
A REPUBLICAN TRULY TIRED OF THE LIES

If you have a mind of your own, why dont you do something about the Town Park instead of blaming others? Why dont you respond to real questions that were posed about the Fire Departments size? I dont think the things I posed were b.s. You may feel that way about other people, but mine were actually legitimate.

I find it sad that you will be leaving. Just another elected official trying to dodge public questions and/or scrutiny. When the going gets tough, dont go to Mr. Pluta. He will likely be cowering in a corner.

[james pluta]

If you have a mind of your own, why dont you do something about the Town Park instead of blaming others? Why dont you respond to real questions that were posed about the Fire Departments size? I dont think the things I posed were b.s. You may feel that way about other people, but mine were actually legitimate.

I find it sad that you will be leaving. Just another elected official trying to dodge public questions and/or scrutiny. When the going gets tough, dont go to Mr. Pluta. He will likely be cowering in a corner.


Crabapples,
Since you say your questions are legitimate, I will answer them. Why don't we do something about the parks? Who said we weren't? It was just announced at our last Board meeting that our grant to redo the playground can finally move forwarded. We will be installing new playground equipment. All three fire companies have volunteered to help out. You can thank Council Woman Cathy Dobson and the rest of the Town Board for getting this done. Please show me were I blamed anyone for the parks? My point of asking you who's in charge was only meant to point you in the direction as to who you should voice your concerns to.

As to the fire departments, NO I DON"T THINK WE HAVE TOO MUCH EQUIPMENT. It's unfair to judge us by other fire companies, we all have our different needs and circumstances to deal with.

Isn't funny that you accuse me of cowering when I'm the only elected official answering your questions? People find it very easy to hide behind a fake names and toss out foolish garbage and one sided truths, I have just grown tired of answering all the crap.

This is my last posting!!I would be more than happy to discuss with anyone issues relating to the Town, call Town hall and ask for my telephone number.

Jim Pluta

[crabapples]

Crabapples,
Since you say your questions are legitimate, I will answer them. Why don't we do something about the parks? Who said we weren't? It was just announced at our last Board meeting that our grant to redo the playground can finally move forwarded. We will be installing new playground equipment. All three fire companies have volunteered to help out. You can thank Council Woman Cathy Dobson and the rest of the Town Board for getting this done. Please show me were I blamed anyone for the parks? My point of asking you who's in charge was only meant to point you in the direction as to who you should voice your concerns to.

As to the fire departments, NO I DON"T THINK WE HAVE TOO MUCH EQUIPMENT. It's unfair to judge us by other fire companies, we all have our different needs and circumstances to deal with.

Isn't funny that you accuse me of cowering when I'm the only elected official answering your questions? People find it very easy to hide behind a fake names and toss out foolish garbage and one sided truths, I have just grown tired of answering all the crap.

I would be more than happy to discuss with anyone issues relating to the Town, anyone can call Town hall and ask for my telephone number.

Jim Pluta

Regarding the parks: Thank God for Jack Quinn and Dale Volker coming thru with grant money. Otherwise you guys would be sitting around watching the rust gather on that old junk.

Regarding the fire trucks: What differences does Boston have to OP other than less people, less land and more fire trucks? It seems like there are too many trucks. Maybe there should be an inventory done to track how often the trucks are used. With diesel gas prices being so high, maybe the Town should look into downsizing to save on the maintenance and fuel costs alone.

[Iknow]

Boston is not growing and improving.

Raising taxes is gowing and improving? Get out of the valley and drive around the hills were the majority of the population lives in Boston and has no services like, water, sewer, cable, leaves pick up, sidewalks. Christmas lights....

Jim Pluta
"Republican Independant Party"
Running from the truth.

Jim you are Eagan's puppet with Hawkins, weather you choose to accept that or not. you are lead by him to look at things a certain may and to raise questions about such things as Telaak's spending. I am quite certain that you didnt come up with that hole situation on your own, Now did you? Obviously his spending habits have been being watched by Eagan for quite some time now, interesting how your the one to break the story and get your name in the paper associated with the "Eagan and Teelak Show". Great publicity for the Town, way to go guys...... you all look like Clowns...

Less than two years of Dobson, Hawkins and Eagan. I pray and really hope three new faces from what ever party will emerge and bring Boston back to the Pre-Eagan days.

[sneakers77]

From the buzz around town, that is being worked on as we speak..........

[Iknow]

"Regarding the fire trucks: What differences does Boston have to OP other than less people, less land and more fire trucks? It seems like there are too many trucks. Maybe there should be an inventory done to track how often the trucks are used. With diesel gas prices being so high, maybe the Town should look into downsizing to save on the maintenance and fuel costs alone."

Interesting concept.

Playground eqipment??? it would have been nice it the grant writer spent some time getting funding for public water than new playground equipment. I would rather see the pot holes filled.
Maybe the old stuff is rusted because no one uses it. Dobson and the town board need to get a clue on what this town really needs. Road repairs, increase tax base with businesses, public water at a reasonable expense....

LESS THAN TWO YEARS OF EAGANISM, HAWKINISM AND DOBSONISM.

I pray there are new fresh blood willing to run against these three and take us back to pre-eagan days....

[Justbecuz]

Regarding the fire trucks: maybe the Town should look into downsizing to save on the maintenance and fuel costs alone.

I think each company pays for thier own fuel and maintenance.... We're not in Amherst out here.........

[Iknow]

Its interesting how Pluto and Little Billy Hitler Eagan jump before looking into the situation. Always looking to scew someone....

Town Board Minutes September 17, 2007

Tonya Lewis, 9046 Boston State Road inquired about the construction project at Emerling Chevrolet, 9000 Boston State Road. It seems the parking lot is being extended behind the buildings and that is right where her deck is located.

Supervisor Eagan asked Deputy Code Enforcement Officer Lisowski if he knew about this.

Deputy Code Enforcement Officer Lisowski stated that for the past two years, the Emerlings have had a Special Permit for the Dumping of Material and are planning on extending the lot for the parking of older vehicles.

Supervisor Eagan asked whether the Emerlings have to build a berm because the property is adjacent to residential property.

Deputy Code Enforcement Officer Lisowski stated that the Bower property is to the north.

Supervisor Eagan stated that Tonya Lewis is on the south side.

Tonya Lewis stated that it looks like they are extending their parking lot on the north side, but they are also filling along the back side which is adjacent to her property line. She noted that they were dumping a substantial amount of fill there and she is concerned with the drainage system and sediment going into Eighteen Mile Creek.

Supervisor Eagan asked code enforcement if the Emerlings submitted a drainage plan.

Deputy Code Enforcement Officer Lisowski stated that he requested a wetlands designation from them and plans on visiting the site tomorrow.

Supervisor Eagan stated his concern is the erosion problem. He stated that the residents need to be protected from any unnecessary drainage onto their properties. If there are wetlands, the NYS DEC should be involved.

Deputy Code Enforcement Officer Lisowski stated that he has already cautioned the Emerlings about the wetlands.

Councilman Pluta stated that the Town Board approved the permit in the spring and didn’t include the west or south sides of the property. He requested that if there is dumping in these areas that code enforcement issue a cease and desist order immediately.

Deputy Code Enforcement Officer Lisowski stated that he would go immediately to find out exactly what they are doing.

A motion was made by Councilman Pluta and was seconded by Supervisor Eagan to direct the Code Enforcement Office to issue a cease and desist order to Emerling Chevrolet if its permit is being violated.

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