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Bringthetruth
March 8th, 2008, 04:01 PM
You can sense a change in the left-liberal blogosphere. They have now become quite virulently anti-Clinton. As often, Kos leads the pack. Part of me wonders whether the Clintons understand this. They don't care much for the net roots, to put it mildly, and the large influx of new Obama voters and new small Obama donors into the Democratic party is terribly threatening to them.

So it's win-win for them by going comprehensively negative on Obama. If they can throw enough dirt and fear in his direction, they could either win the nomination (by peeling off enough white ethnics and then talking the super-delegates into switching), or help McCain defeat Obama in the fall. Then they get bragging rights (we told you a black man couldn't win), assume that McCain is a one-term president, and gear up for a second attempt at restoration in 2012, having consigned the Obama insurrection to history.



Clinton Puts McCain Above Obama - AGAIN

From DailyKos:

Hillary Clinton is at it again. This morning on CNN, she said:

I have a lifetime of experience. Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience. Senator Obama's campaign is about one speech he made in 2002.

She added:

if your entire campaign is about one speech and that's what you hold up as your credential to be president against a lifetime of experience from John McCain and a lifetime of experience from me, I think the voters can draw their own conclusion.



So, for all of those of you who said she' misspoke'. How can this be. She didn't misspeak. This is deliberate. Can't get more obvious.

Please tell me once again WHY we'd vote for this race-baiting, fear monger to ' unify' the Party.

Make no mistake, she doesn't care if Obama wins the nomination, because she's trying to ruin him for the General Election. If SHE can't be the nominee, then NOBODY is going to win. That is the core of who she is. That is her lack of character. Accept it, and don't try and make any excuses as to why we should be Good Little Darkies and shuffle along to vote for Miss Hillary.



Florida And Michigan

05 Mar 2008 05:52 pm

Their governors demand that their delegates be seated. You could see this coming. It's the only way the Clintons can get back to the White House. And rules are for non-Clintons.

The timing of the endorsement of Obama by Louis Farrakhan - he had to know the impact of the act. (He admitted to helping off Malcolm X - one of his own) Taking out one more would not be hard. Does he owe the Clintons one?? Once you start to travel the road of REALITY, expecting nothing except what you find, the enlightened will be shocked, the REALIST will continue on the journey thru life.

speaker
March 9th, 2008, 09:17 AM
BTT-this article may help explain why Barack Obama isn't considered ready yet, to lead America out of its troubles. "A black man can't win" doesn't cut it. Anyone who has the strength and knowledge to get our country back on the path of morality, fiscal soundness and the 'know how' of the makings of the Washington, DC politics, would be welcomed by almost anyone, color unimportant. Obama doesn't seem to fit these credentials:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/us/politics/09obama.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&exprod=myyahoo&adxnnlx=1205067885-+J+ozxLwx2qIZ+tPSmBGYQ

'Senator Barack Obama stood before Washington’s elite at the spring dinner of the storied Gridiron Club. In self-parody, he ticked off his accomplishments, little more than a year after arriving in town.
This is part of a series of articles about the life and careers of contenders for the 2008 Republican and Democratic presidential nominations.'

"Mr. Obama poked fun at himself at the Gridiron Club in 2006 with, left, his current chief strategist, David Axelrod, and his communications director, Robert Gibbs.

“I’ve been very blessed,” Mr. Obama told the crowd assembled in March 2006. “Keynote speaker at the Democratic convention. The cover of Newsweek. My book made the best-seller list. I just won a Grammy for reading it on tape.

“Really, what else is there to do?” he said, his smile now broad. “Well, I guess I could pass a law or something.”

They were the two competing elements in Mr. Obama’s time in the Senate: his megawatt celebrity and the realities of the job he was elected to do.

He went to the Senate intent on learning the ways of the institution, telling reporters he would be “looking for the washroom and trying to figure out how the phones work.” But frustrated by his lack of influence and what he called the “glacial pace,” he soon opted to exploit his star power. He was running for president even as he was still getting lost in the Capitol’s corridors.

Outside Washington, Mr. Obama was a multimedia sensation — people offered free tickets to his book readings for $125 on eBay and contributed thousands of dollars each to his political action committee to watch him on stage questioning policy experts.

But inside the Senate, Mr. Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, was 99th in seniority and in the minority party his first two years. In committee hearings, he had to wait his turn until every other senator had asked questions. He once telephoned reporters himself to draw attention to his amendments. And some senior colleagues were cool to the newcomer, whom they considered naïve.

Determined to be viewed as substantive, Mr. Obama kept his head down, declining Sunday talk show invitations for his first year, and consulted Senate elders for advice. He was cautious — even on the Iraq war, which he had opposed as a Senate candidate. He voted against the withdrawal of troops and proposed legislation calling for a drawdown only after he was running for president and polls showed voters favoring it.

And while he rightly takes credit for steering through an ethics overhaul that reformers called a “gold standard,” like most freshmen he did not play a significant role in passing much other legislation and disappointed some Democrats for not becoming a more prominent voice in other important debates.

Yet Mr. Obama was planning for the future. He spent much of his time raising money for other Democrats, which helped him build chits and lists of potential voters. He tended to his image, even upbraiding a reporter for writing that he had smoked a cigarette (a habit he later said he gave up for his presidential bid).

Early on in his tenure in Washington, he concluded that it would be hard to have much of an impact inside the Senate, where partisan conflict increasingly provoked filibuster threats, nomination fights and near gridlock even on routine spending bills.

“I think it’s very possible to have a Senate career here that is not particularly useful,” he said in an interview, reflecting on his first year. And it would be better for his political prospects not to become a Senate insider, which could saddle him with the kind of voting record that has tripped up so many senators who would be president.

“It’s sort of logic turned on its head, but it really is true,” said Tom Daschle of South Dakota, the former senator and Democratic leader who has been a close adviser to Mr. Obama.

“Two things develop the more time you spend here,” Mr. Daschle said. “One is a mind-set that we did it this way before, we should do it this way again, and I think that’s a real burden. More importantly — and Hillary and McCain are the perfect examples of this — the longer you are here, you take on enemies. And these enemies don’t forget.”

Rising to Stardom

If freshman senators arrive as celebrities, it is usually because they are “dragon slayers,” having ousted big-name incumbents. Mr. Obama was not one of those; two serious opponents in Illinois self-destructed, smoothing his path to election in November 2004.

He had been anointed his party’s rising star after delivering a soaring speech at the Democratic National Convention the previous July. His fresh face that fall cheered Democrats demoralized by their failure to win the White House and the defeat of Mr. Daschle, the party’s Senate leader..."

CSense
March 9th, 2008, 05:31 PM
BTT-this article may help explain why Barack Obama isn't considered ready yet, to lead America out of its troubles. "A black man can't win" doesn't cut it. Anyone who has the strength and knowledge to get our country back on the path of morality, fiscal soundness and the 'know how' of the makings of the Washington, DC politics, would be welcomed by almost anyone, color unimportant. Obama doesn't seem to fit these credentials:

Holy crap, after reading the entire article, I want to vote for him twice!

The sad thing is you saw something entirely different then I did, but then again you are only voting for her because she's a women.

The article showed his savvy, smarts and admiration. He was smart enough to seek guidance form seniors (Daschle Kennedy, etc), savvy enough not to become entrenched like Hillary and admired for taking a stand (Feingold) when it wasn't kosher with his colleagues.

Wake up. Your as bad as BTT for voting only black.

raoul duke
March 10th, 2008, 01:04 AM
Anyone who has the strength and knowledge to get our country back on the path of morality, fiscal soundness and the 'know how' of the makings of the Washington, DC politics, would be welcomed by almost anyone, color unimportant.
What does that even mean? Seriously. That's a rationale? Uh. . . little desperate? Never mind that it is pure fiction in a historical sense.

Bringthetruth
March 10th, 2008, 08:19 AM
Holy crap, after reading the entire article, I want to vote for him twice!

The sad thing is you saw something entirely different then I did, but then again you are only voting for her because she's a women.

The article showed his savvy, smarts and admiration. He was smart enough to seek guidance form seniors (Daschle Kennedy, etc), savvy enough not to become entrenched like Hillary and admired for taking a stand (Feingold) when it wasn't kosher with his colleagues.

Wake up. Your as bad as BTT for voting only black.

Voting Black ?

I would never vote for another Clinton or another bush policies ally John McCain ! They are both into destroying america.

Talk what you know next time, having anybody who isn't tied to bush and Clinton would get my vote regardless of color.

Bringthetruth
March 19th, 2008, 07:33 PM
Are americans really that dence not to say mccain would be another bush in the whitehouse ???

mesue
March 19th, 2008, 09:28 PM
Are americans really that dence not to say mccain would be another bush in the whitehouse ???
You're kidding me, right? Are people really that dense to think McCain would be just like Bush? McCain is only a hair less liberal than Hillary. Is this what you want? None of the candidates are good presidential material.