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WNYresident
October 22nd, 2007, 08:42 PM
A forum for the people who support Hillary

gonerail
October 22nd, 2007, 09:42 PM
Read an article tonight where she has received donations nearing 91 Million. Says she has been spending it lavishly in high stakes states. I don't know what to really think of her at this point as I feel there are and always will be too many links between the Clintons and the Bush's to make her believable. Just me talking.:D :D :D :D :D :D

ReformWNY
October 22nd, 2007, 11:19 PM
A forum for the people who support Hillary

This had to be the single most difficult think that you've done all year.
Congrats!

WNYresident
October 22nd, 2007, 11:21 PM
I couldn't believe I hit the button. :)

yaksplat
October 23rd, 2007, 09:45 AM
Well, hopefully there's no one around to use it.

run4it
October 24th, 2007, 12:40 PM
I actually like her political stances for the most part (no one should completely agree with any other candidate, unless a lobotomy has recently been performed). I just don't think she's what our country needs. We've had 8 years of Bill Clinton inciting Republicans into a frenzy, and another 7 years of Bush/Rove attempting to completely marginalize half the population.

That's why I'm voting for Obama. Good, moderate positions...well considered person...calm demeanor.

leftWNYbecauseofBS
October 24th, 2007, 12:55 PM
Hillary Clinton called Bill into her office one day and said, "Bill, I have
a great idea. I know how we can win back middle America and secure my
presidential victory in 2008".

"Great, but how so you propose we go about that?", asked Bill.
"Well", Hillary responds, "We'll go down to a local Wal-Mart, get some
cheezy clothes and shoes like most middle Americans wear, and then we'll
stop at the pound and pick up a Labrador . When we look the part we'll go to
a nice old country bar in middle America , and we'll show them that we
really enjoy the countryside and show admiration and respect for the hard working people living there."

A few days later, all decked out and with the requisite Labrador at heel,
they set off from New York in a westerly direction. Eventually they arrived
at just the place they were looking for. With dog in tow they walk into the
bar. They step up to the bar and the bartender takes a step back and says,
"Aren't you Bill and Hillary Clinton?"

Hillary answers, "Yes we are, and what a lovely town you have here. We were just passing through and Bill suggested that we stop and take in some local color."

They then order a couple of cocktails from the bartender and proceed to
drink them down, all the while chatting up a storm with anyone who would
listen.

All of a sudden, the bar room door opens and a grizzled old farmer comes in.
He walks up to the Labrador , lifts its tail and looks underneath, shrugs
his shoulders and walks out the door. A few moments later, in came another
old farmer. He walks up to the dog, lifts its tail, looks underneath,
scratches his head, and then leaves the bar.

Over the course of the next hour or so, another four or five farmers came
in, lifted the dog's tail, and went away looking puzzled.
Eventually Hillary and Bill could stand it no longer and called the
bartender over. "Tell me", said Hillary, "Why did all those old farmers come and look under the dog's tail like that? Is it some sort of old country
custom?"

"Good Lord no", said the bartender, "It's just that someone has told them
there was a Labrador in here with two a**holes!"

ReformWNY
October 24th, 2007, 02:31 PM
Hillary Clinton called Bill into her office one day and said, "Bill, I have
a great idea. I know how we can win back middle America and secure my
presidential victory in 2008".

"Great, but how so you propose we go about that?", asked Bill.
"Well", Hillary responds, "We'll go down to a local Wal-Mart, get some
cheezy clothes and shoes like most middle Americans wear, and then we'll
stop at the pound and pick up a Labrador . When we look the part we'll go to
a nice old country bar in middle America , and we'll show them that we
really enjoy the countryside and show admiration and respect for the hard working people living there."

A few days later, all decked out and with the requisite Labrador at heel,
they set off from New York in a westerly direction. Eventually they arrived
at just the place they were looking for. With dog in tow they walk into the
bar. They step up to the bar and the bartender takes a step back and says,
"Aren't you Bill and Hillary Clinton?"

Hillary answers, "Yes we are, and what a lovely town you have here. We were just passing through and Bill suggested that we stop and take in some local color."

They then order a couple of cocktails from the bartender and proceed to
drink them down, all the while chatting up a storm with anyone who would
listen.

All of a sudden, the bar room door opens and a grizzled old farmer comes in.
He walks up to the Labrador , lifts its tail and looks underneath, shrugs
his shoulders and walks out the door. A few moments later, in came another
old farmer. He walks up to the dog, lifts its tail, looks underneath,
scratches his head, and then leaves the bar.

Over the course of the next hour or so, another four or five farmers came
in, lifted the dog's tail, and went away looking puzzled.
Eventually Hillary and Bill could stand it no longer and called the
bartender over. "Tell me", said Hillary, "Why did all those old farmers come and look under the dog's tail like that? Is it some sort of old country
custom?"

"Good Lord no", said the bartender, "It's just that someone has told them
there was a Labrador in here with two a**holes!"


Wow that's great.. what do you call yourselves?
"We're the Aristocrats!"

woodstock
October 24th, 2007, 02:51 PM
Hillary Clinton called Bill into her office one day and said, "Bill, I have
a great idea. I know how we can win back middle America and secure my
presidential victory in 2008".

.................

"Good Lord no", said the bartender, "It's just that someone has told them
there was a Labrador in here with two a**holes!"

I have a feeling this forum won't work out as the title of it states.

IE- "Hillary Clinton 2008 Campaign Supporters"

Wait until the spinsters latch on to it :( It'll soon have to be renamed as the defend Hillary forum.

mesue
October 24th, 2007, 03:26 PM
I have a feeling this forum won't work out as the title of it states.

IE- "Hillary Clinton 2008 Campaign Supporters"

Wait until the spinsters latch on to it :( It'll soon have to be renamed as the defend Hillary forum.
Or, just Hillary Clinton 2008 Campaign and leave off the word "supporters".

woodstock
October 24th, 2007, 03:36 PM
Or, just Hillary Clinton 2008 Campaign and leave off the word "supporters".


I was asked to create it
A forum for the people who support Hillary

The title is what it is, and as I said previously.... it won't work mainly cuz ppl can't read thread titles. :rolleyes:


I have a feeling this forum won't work out as the title of it states.

WNYresident
October 24th, 2007, 04:53 PM
I have a feeling this forum won't work out as the title of it states.

IE- "Hillary Clinton 2008 Campaign Supporters"

Wait until the spinsters latch on to it :( It'll soon have to be renamed as the defend Hillary forum.

The spinsters are currently working on trying to get keane elected. I don't think they'll get to this group till after the Novembers elections.

woodstock
October 24th, 2007, 05:00 PM
The spinsters are currently working on trying to get keane elected. I don't think they'll get to this group till after the Novembers elections.

I noticed the title was changed.... so now there really is no place for Hillary supporters to speakup, way to please the repubs who cried cuz they couldn't bash Hillary. :(

mesue
October 24th, 2007, 05:27 PM
I noticed the title was changed.... so now there really is no place for Hillary supporters to speakup, way to please the repubs who cried cuz they couldn't bash Hillary. :(
Why can't you speak up for Hillary? The title change tied your tongue?
Or
Is your real issue that you only want your side of the debate to be spoken? Is it your view or no view?

WNYresident
October 24th, 2007, 07:27 PM
I changed both the Ron Paul and Hilary forum titles. I didn't want to make two for each. The supports and non supporters.

As you were. :)

mesue
October 24th, 2007, 08:00 PM
I changed both the Ron Paul and Hilary forum titles. I didn't want to make two for each. The supports and non supporters.

As you were. :)
Cool, thanks Res :)

HipKat
October 24th, 2007, 08:42 PM
When people here talk about her, I usually reply with this; "as of when I moved from Buffalo, Hillary hadn't done a damn thing for the state"

Has that changed?

mesue
October 24th, 2007, 08:46 PM
When people here talk about her, I usually reply with this; "as of when I moved from Buffalo, Hillary hadn't done a damn thing for the state"

Has that changed?
Same old same old

HipKat
October 24th, 2007, 08:48 PM
I figured......

300miles
October 24th, 2007, 10:44 PM
Can anybody list actual accomplishments Hillary has done for NYS?

mesue
October 25th, 2007, 04:48 PM
Can anybody list actual accomplishments Hillary has done for NYS?
This one?

:eek: :eek:

Is the following just coincidence or should one think that there IS a
Clinton machine that kills off the truthers?

Thinking of supporting Hillary?
Consider the following...

1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key
witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at
a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after
she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White
House.

3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of
Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot
wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman.
Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close
to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of
Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death
Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to
cut a deal with prosecutors.

5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the
Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July
1992.

6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992... Described by
Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."

7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed
Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill
Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey
was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in
Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside
Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on
Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he
died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he
had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people
who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was
found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head.
It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases,
as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant
along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was
a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy
Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found
dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave
site of his fiancee.

13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by
jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
convicted drug distributor.

14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was
related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of
three gunshot wounds.

15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the
head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena
Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,
apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport
with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet
June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report
to Janet Reno three weeks before his death.

19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp.
Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony
August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with
Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the
Department of Commerce.

21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John
Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small
plane crash.

22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health
Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a
small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's
advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and
brother.

23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no
accident.

24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill
Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found
dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a
purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,
1994 when his plane exploded.

27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport
drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death
said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the
two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked
to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
truck, July 1988.

29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash
dump in April 1989.

33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his
death was due to "natural causes."

34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.

35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was
killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds
38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley
39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel
40 - Major General William Robertson
41 - Col. William Densberger
42 - Col. Robert Kelly
43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes
44 - Steve Willis
45 - Robert Williams
46 - Conway LeBleu
47 - Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of
what happens to anyone who might damage the Clinton machine.
This is why I refuse to back the perpaTRAITOR :D ;) ;)

HipKat
October 25th, 2007, 09:13 PM
I actually like her political stances for the most part (no one should completely agree with any other candidate, unless a lobotomy has recently been performed). I just don't think she's what our country needs. We've had 8 years of Bill Clinton inciting Republicans into a frenzy, and another 7 years of Bush/Rove attempting to completely marginalize half the population.

That's why I'm voting for Obama. Good, moderate positions...well considered person...calm demeanor.


It's not her stances that I disagree with. It's her lack of action.

Ragin
October 26th, 2007, 01:12 AM
Can anybody list actual accomplishments Hillary has done for NYS?

She's helped boost the number of times Sen. Chuck Schumer has been interviewed on television, cause when they look for Hillary, they can't find her in this state :D