Only Toast And Coffee

[GRANDPOOBA]

Well,Well,Well toast and coffee ok.Check out the Buffalo News coffee and toast with the Kesner's.

[My2cents]

Posted by j.camareri:
"There are two slots that, for the time being, NEED to be filled. As Commissioner of Police, he recommended the two he thought the best fit. If this were a "back room deal," it would have been veiled in secrecy from the town board, as well as the public. Walters sent a memo (per the HamburgFirst web site) to his colleagues alerting them of his recommendations WELL BEFORE the town board meeting. He made the resolution in public, in front of all to see. There was nothing "secret" about it."

Quit crying.

[buffy]

Well,Well,Well toast and coffee ok.Check out the Buffalo News coffee and toast with the Kesner's.
Hey GrandPOOba, any relation to GrandpaBob? He's from Orchard Park too. :)

[GRANDPOOBA]

I know that I seen it.But what date was the toast and coffee that needs to be found out.

[GRANDPOOBA]

Maybe Dan Meyer was in the next booth who knows.

[buffy]

:D Hamberg is the new Amherst

[My2cents]

You guys have got to pay more attention to these boards. Take some time and you will find the answers you are looking for. Your "facts" are way off base.. You are trying to spread rumors when with a little less laziness you can comment on the truth. Pot stirrers will do nothing, but be run off.

[j.camareri]

I know that I seen it.But what date was the toast and coffee that needs to be found out.

Do you REALLY think if something covert was going down, hidden from all the world to see, they would have met in PUBLIC?? Good lord!

Do you want to talk about veiling things in secrecy? I had heard Vincent Gugliuzza, the other Democrat running for the town board, was assured the appointment of Kathy Hochul's seat (which makes sense from the stand point that he could have used the public exposure). Not 10 minutes before the appointment was to take place did Gugliuzza learn the seat was going to good ol' Dicky Smith. The public had no knowledge of this appointment. Nor did the supervisor. And NO ONE was interviewed to find the best possible replacement. Is this an acceptable practice to the Walters Haters?

Furthermore, the board didn't meet at a public restaurant to discuss it either. Why? Because it was a secret deal; they had something to HIDE. People who want to hide things DO NOT meet in public restaurants, to be seen by the world and overheard by everyone. The only ones who keep hammering this are people with specific axes to grind (or disciples of Sorrentino). The memo went out to the board in June regarding Joe Coggins' replacement plans. The resolution to appoint Williams and Kesner was proposed in front of a crowded room. Moreover, these are provisional appointments. The evidence shows that there was nothing remotely secretive about this. I'm sorry for the ones who desperately want to believe this is some juicy soap opera.

[GRANDPOOBA]

Scroll up I know about the memo.I have no problem with Kesner or Williams.Why meet with the Kenser's,even in public.Remeber Mr. Bush and the weapons of mass destruction in public all a lie.I only see body bags now no weapons.

[My2cents]

Scroll up I know about the memo.I have no problem with Kesner or Williams.Why meet with the Kenser's,even in public.Remeber Mr. Bush and the weapons of mass destruction in public all a lie.I only see body bags now no weapons.
You really have problems explaining your position without bringing up Bush don't you. Bush has no bearing on this discussion. Why don't you look into the real behind the scenes deal and come back and shed the same insight on that. Instead of faulting Walters, you need to keep your eye on the ball and watch the spin factory in action. Find out what the excuse is this week for not making the appointments. (Hint: it's not because there weren't interviews). It comes down to this, the elections are less than 3 months away and there are two seats up for grabs. Thank Dick Smith for keeping one of the seats warm.

[bwilson]

Posted by j.camareri:
"There are two slots that, for the time being, NEED to be filled. As Commissioner of Police, he recommended the two he thought the best fit. If this were a "back room deal," it would have been veiled in secrecy from the town board, as well as the public. Walters sent a memo (per the HamburgFirst web site) to his colleagues alerting them of his recommendations WELL BEFORE the town board meeting. He made the resolution in public, in front of all to see. There was nothing "secret" about it."

Quit crying.


Show me where this memo states that Supervisor walters wants to replace coggins with kesner and in turn kesner with williams...it doesn't...all these "memos" stae are options.....I woould like to hear a little more discussion about the three individuals who have ALREADY passed the test and would be eligible for immediate permanent appointment...or better yet the possibility of a transfer from any police dept in THE STATE OF NEW YORK...It seems that everyone agrees that Kesner and Williams are good cops, but to say that they are the BEST IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK is a disservice to citizens of the town.

Instead of exploring the BEST option for the Town....we're having toast and coffee.....

[j.camareri]

Show me where this memo states that Supervisor walters wants to replace coggins with kesner and in turn kesner with williams...it doesn't...all these "memos" stae are options.....I woould like to hear a little more discussion about the three individuals who have ALREADY passed the test and would be eligible for immediate permanent appointment...or better yet the possibility of a transfer from any police dept in THE STATE OF NEW YORK...It seems that everyone agrees that Kesner and Williams are good cops, but to say that they are the BEST IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK is a disservice to citizens of the town.

Instead of exploring the BEST option for the Town....we're having toast and coffee.....

b--who are the three individuals who have already passed the test? Have Kesner and Williams not passed it?

[bwilson]

b--who are the three individuals who have already passed the test? Have Kesner and Williams not passed it?

read the memo thatyou quoted from FJB's Site. hamburgfirst.wordpress.com. I believe it is wickett, mickac, and conlon. I would bet that id those three took the test then kesner and williams did as well. Their names are not on the memo as eligible.

Why call for a new test when one already exists???

[My2cents]

Was that a test for Hamburg chief?

[bwilson]

Was that a test for Hamburg chief?


According to the memo those three are eligible.

I would guess that the test was for Chief of Police ...not specific to Hamburg...since there hasn't been an opening for chief in a while. However the official town HR guy states that those three are eligible for appointment. Don't you think that if those guys were qualified to sit for the test, then Kesner and willims were too...don't you also think that Kesner and Williams would have sat for the test knowing that someday it might come in handy? I know if I was in a highranking position in the HPD and a test came up I would be sure to take it.

[GRANDPOOBA]

The reason I put Bush in it and you fell for it.Can a republican be trusted after Bush no.If you say yes you need some help.Maybe we can talk about it over some toast and coffee.We can start with weapons of mass destructions and work are way to a back door deal.

[My2cents]

Ah, so we can only trust the dems. Are you out of your freaking mind?

[GRANDPOOBA]

I did not bring up the dems.I said after what Bush did can you trust a republican YES or NO.REMEMBER the body bags.

[bwilson]

jcam, my2...let me ask you this....Put the whole toast and coffe scenario in a bubble for a minute, forget about Best, forget about hochul's vacancy, and I will agree for the time being that the TB could have done things a little differently. Don't you agree that this whole Toast and Coffee meeting where Walters approached Carmen Kesner AND HIS WIFE, was extremely inappropriate. Has anyone on this site ever had their spouse contacted before being hired by an employer? Joan Kesner has publicly stated her abstention from these matters, yet The Supervisor asks her and her hubby out for breakfast in the middle of all this. If Supervisor Walters needed to discuss things with Carment then why not bring it up during one of the MANY meeting Supervisor Walters had during that period between Coggins' retirement and the July 16th meeting?

[j.camareri]

jcam, my2...let me ask you this....Put the whole toast and coffe scenario in a bubble for a minute, forget about Best, forget about hochul's vacancy, and I will agree for the time being that the TB could have done things a little differently. Don't you agree that this whole Toast and Coffee meeting where Walters approached Carmen Kesner AND HIS WIFE, was extremely inappropriate. Has anyone on this site ever had their spouse contacted before being hired by an employer? Joan Kesner has publicly stated her abstention from these matters, yet The Supervisor asks her and her hubby out for breakfast in the middle of all this. If Supervisor Walters needed to discuss things with Carment then why not bring it up during one of the MANY meeting Supervisor Walters had during that period between Coggins' retirement and the July 16th meeting?

Who ever said the supervisor invited them? How do you know it wasn't the other way around? Seriously? How would any of us know? And if the supervisor did ask them, and you find it inappropriate, isn't it just as inappropriate for Joan to have accepted the invitation? After all, it's more inappropriate for her, because her husband stands to not only become top cop, but to get a pay raise, too. She has a serious stake in this. What stake did Walters have?

Also, how do you know there were "MANY" meetings between Coggins' retirement and the 7/16 meeting? How would anybody be privy to that kind of information, unless they're a spy? (No, I'm not calling you a spy--just not sure how you're privy to such specifics).

[bwilson]

Also, how do you know there were "MANY" meetings between Coggins' retirement and the 7/16 meeting? How would anybody be privy to that kind of information, unless they're a spy? (No, I'm not calling you a spy--just not sure how you're privy to such specifics).


Because he said so

[GRANDPOOBA]

Well like I said you can't trust a REPUBLICAN.It's Bush one day and Mr.Walters the next.

[My2cents]

Well like I said you can't trust a REPUBLICAN.It's Bush one day and Mr.Walters the next.

Please leave your hatred for Bush off this thread it is useless and childish to continue to bring it up. It has absolutely no relevance in this whatsoever. It is the pathetic whining of a desperate democrat.

[GRANDPOOBA]

Well as i asked you before my 2 cents (less).Can you trust a republican we can talk this over toast and coffee.

[My2cents]

I trust people who give me a reason to trust them regardless if they are rep. or dem. I am not as narrow minded as you are to group all rep. together. If you want the answer you are looking for I'll put it this way, no, I don't trust Bush but yes I do trust Walters. Do I trust the other board members, the majority, no.

[My2cents]

Because he said so

So Walters said he had many meetings with Kesner over the issue of police chief, and one of these many meetings he was accompanied by his wife. Hmm, so Walters had a meeting with an employee and a coworker that apart would not raise any question, but god forbid they meet in public to discuss an issue. It is absolutely amazing that anything gets done in town hall. By the way are you tracking the meetings Dickey is having with other members of the police dept.

[GRANDPOOBA]

This is not about Mr.Smith it's about toast and coffee with Mr.Walters and the Kesner's.So lets stick to the thread I TRUST you can even if you TRUST Mr.Walters.(thats scarey)

[My2cents]

Wow You bring Bush into it (irrelevant) and I bring Smith into it (very relevant) and you have a fit. Now I know your motive is not to debate the issue, but to label Walters as a republican who cannot be trusted and to smear him at all costs. Way to go.

[GRANDPOOBA]

My 2 Cents (less) are you that thick.Read Bush lied Walters back door deal ,you with me how can you trust these two republicans.

[My2cents]

So who do you trust?

[My2cents]

Again no one has proven or brought anything forward to substantiate the back room deal. Do you have something to add other than what was supplied to the news by an upset party.

[GRANDPOOBA]

In God

[Achbek1]

Hey GrandPOOba, any relation to GrandpaBob? He's from Orchard Park too. :)

Whatever happened to Grandpa Bob? :confused: Is he okay? I hope so!

[j.camareri]

Again no one has proven or brought anything forward to substantiate the back room deal. Do you have something to add other than what was supplied to the news by an upset party.

I hate to sound redundant but... Scooter's back!! He's hung up on Bush, just like he was obsessed with Ford before that. So let's do the forum a favor and ignore him. The fact that he won't even permit a discussion about Dick Smith--you're not going to get through to someone that "thick," (a term favored by Scooter).

You know what this whole thing is? Sorrentino running with any yarn he thinks he can spin, because he has only 3 months to go before the big election. It's essential politically for him to start smearing Walters, because people are going to associate Smardz and Best with Walters. Unfortunately for him, it's not going to work. He did the exact same thing with the proposed dispatch merger, even going so far as to say that he knows dispatch services will be merged in the next few years, but he couldn't pass up this "political gift."

That's how Sorrentino and particular Democrats (not all--I won't be like Scooter and demonize one group based on the actions of a few) operate in Hamburg. Even if they know in their hearts that Walters is right, or that they're making mountains out of mole hills, or that they're speaking out of both sides of their mouths--they'll make hay because it's politically expedient. This goes back for several years. I've been told Sorrentino also has a writing committee, commissioning people to write letters to The Sun, and heck--probably to write on here!

[j.camareri]

Because he said so

Wait--if Walters hasn't hidden the fact that he has had so many meetings with Carmen Kesner, how can anyone assert that everything was secretive?

By the way, did you catch Tom Quatroche's quote in the paper today regarding the civil service process? "That's what we wanted to do from the beginning, and I'm glad we're finally doing that." Hold the phone! Wasn't Quatroche's excuse on July 16 that he had "no knowledge" about anything? So which is it? Or could it be the fact that Quatroche was proven to have lied about the knowledge scenario, and had to come up with a new excuse?

[GRANDPOOBA]

Fine admitt to the meeting or meetings.What was said in them thats what I don't trust.Seems you got to take what the Sun wrote thats all we can go on.

[bwilson]

Wasn't Quatroche's excuse on July 16 that he had "no knowledge" about anything?

No...it wasn't....I'll give you an A for trying to Distort the facts though.

[bwilson]

How would any of us know? And if the supervisor did ask them, and you find it inappropriate, isn't it just as inappropriate for Joan to have accepted the invitation?

I think he admitted tot he meeting in the paper didn't he...that's how I know...and yes if he did ask them I would say it is ALMOST as innapropriate for Councilwoman Kesner to have accepted...remember Mr. Walters is her superior on the board. He used his position of authority and the office of Supervisor to broker a deal. If he wants to lead than he has to set an example. If he wants to reform then he missed a golden opportunity to do just that...I know I know the TB didn't interview for Hochul's seat and they abolished the dep. sup position, HOWEVER Supervisor Walters found himself at a meeting where two democrats were asking for a more open process, communication, interview even...if Walters TRULY wanted REFORM he missed a chance...I think he showed his true colors...oh well

[j.camareri]

No...it wasn't....I'll give you an A for trying to Distort the facts though.

Wrong. Quatroche said numerous times that they were not given information they requested to make the appointment. Didn't you guys complain when Ford posted the memo showing Quatroche lied about this? Whoops.

By the way, if you want to talk about giving out grades for distorting the facts, then how about giving an A+ to Quatroche for saying he only wanted the "proper procedure" followed. May I remind Mr. Quatroche that he did the exact same thing he's yelling at Walters for doing when the town board appointed Coggins and Gracon. They were appointed temporary and took the test AFTER the appointment. Actually, correction: Gracon never took the test.

And save the holier-than-thou "reform" routine. When Walters resists a Democratic proposal, you say he "needs to learn to work with the Dems." When Walters reaches across the aisle to work with the Dems, you say he needs to push for more "reform."

So cut the garbage and tell everyone the truth: This whole thing was about Dick Smith's and Vince Sorrentino's ego.

[GRANDPOOBA]

Hey you know what people.I did not see Walters say anything about toast and coffee in the Sun.Only the news had it he forgot to put that in the Sun.What is he trying to hide.Come on Sun check that out please.He's got alot of TOM FOOLERY in him.

[bwilson]

Didn't you guys complain when Ford posted the memo

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I did no such thing

[j.camareri]

Hey you know what people.I did not see Walters say anything about toast and coffee in the Sun.Only the news had it he forgot to put that in the Sun.What is he trying to hide.Come on Sun check that out please.He's got alot of TOM FOOLERY in him.

Holy Moses, Scooter. If you're really on the school board, I weep for our children's future.

[bwilson]

Wrong. Quatroche said numerous times that they were not given information they requested to make the appointment. Didn't you guys complain when Ford posted the memo showing Quatroche lied about this? Whoops.




Quatroche complained that they didn't have a chance to speak to the candidates for the job....a reasonable rerquest I would think.

I am still waiting for an answer to this question....Where do these memos say that Walters wanted to specifically appoint Kesner and Williams to these positions? THey don't!

[bwilson]

May I remind Mr. Quatroche that he did the exact same thing he's yelling at Walters for doing when the town board appointed Coggins and Gracon. They were appointed temporary and took the test AFTER the appointment. Actually, correction: Gracon never took the test.



While we are discussing ancient history, why don't you give me your thoughts on the Fallon administration?

[bwilson]

And save the holier-than-thou "reform" routine.


So reform reform reform...until I'm elected is that the new slogan.

how about this 0%,0%, 0%!....until my first budget!

[My2cents]

Gee the dems brought it down to 0%...oh, wait a minute they couldn't either. Walters never promised 0%. He stated he would work hard to draft a 0% budget but when he got in and found all the mess he had a difficult time. Believe he will be much closer this year. Of course Foit's is going to make a big dent in the budget. But with the $1.1 million from the Fairgrounds and one health care he should have and easier time.

[My2cents]

Hey you know what people.I did not see Walters say anything about toast and coffee in the Sun.Only the news had it he forgot to put that in the Sun.What is he trying to hide.Come on Sun check that out please.He's got alot of TOM FOOLERY in him.

He does keep a blog. I guess we should expect him to tells us every time he talks to someone who works for the town. Of course when you have people with bent noses they look for anything they can to substantiate their accusations. Sound familiar.

[GRANDPOOBA]

No not every time he talks to someone who works for the town.JUST WHEN HE DOES HIS BACK DOOR DEALS......He lied the news has him with toast and coffee.He writes the Sun and nothing about toast and coffee.I wonder if this stupid-visor may have weapons of mass destruction hidden.He needs to get his stories right.Reminds of that fool we got in Washington,two peas in a pod.they both lie.

[PaulJonson]

No not every time he talks to someone who works for the town.JUST WHEN HE DOES HIS BACK DOOR DEALS......He lied the news has him with toast and coffee.He writes the Sun and nothing about toast and coffee.I wonder if this stupid-visor may have weapons of mass destruction hidden.He needs to get his stories right.Reminds of that fool we got in Washington,two peas in a pod.they both lie.

So you want him to announce his back door deals? Wouldn't that negate the point of a back door deal?

[j.camareri]

While we are discussing ancient history, why don't you give me your thoughts on the Fallon administration?

Quit with the histrionics. Discussing Coggins' appointment as chief is hardly ancient history. According to the Buffalo News, Matt Czerwic retired in 1999. That's recent history in my book. Coggins was appointed by the exact same board that sits today, minus Kathy Hochul. I just don't understand why you won't address any of the issues I've brought out. Rather, you continue to write segues (rife with your signature condescending style). So here are the unanswered questions, again:

1. In 1999, Matt Czerwic retired (with a fat package--walked out with about almost $200,000--nice gig). The board then appointed Joe Coggins before taking any test, correct? That temporary appointment is NO different from the temporary appointment of Kesner and Williams, as they would be taking the test, too. Why was that a perfectly acceptable practice then, but not today? Oh that's right. Because you were all in lock-step with Sorrentino.

2. You continue to ignore the very relevant facts about previous board appointments that contained NO interviewing process. Dick Smith was given Kathy Hochul's seat. NO interviews. There are probably schools of people infinitely better-suited to the job. Instead, it went to a buddy of the machine--one who also happens to be running in November. Not a very open process.

3. Vince Sorrentino is town attorney AND Democratic Chair, which, in and of itself, is definitely a conflict of interest. But that's neither here nor there. What's jarring is that he retires to collect the perks, and then your board hires him back without batting an eyelash, at the same pay, on a contract. WHY didn't the board say, "Hey, he's retiring. This is the perfect opportunity to find a new attorney who may be more affordable, work harder and bring a new perspective." And one who is bipartisan. Sorrentino is obsessed with his hatred of Walters. You don't have to be a genius to know that.

4. Tom Best. Appointed Deputy Supervisor. For one week. Because your board decided they didn't like that. It was okay to name Dicky Smith to the board, where he VOTES, but it wasn't okay for Tom Best to be D.S., where he would have NO votes. He and the supervisor found out about the abolishment only minutes before that meeting. Again, an acceptable practice for the board, but if Walters doesn't give them something years in advance, the town crier comes out wailing about injustice.

And you can talk until your blue in the face about "0%" and "reform," but when it is ALWAYS a 4 to 1 vote, the Supervisor can't do *****, and you know it. Which is JUST how Sorrentino likes it, doesn't he?

Of course, that will all change in 3 months... Thank God. The era of Sorrentino is over. The whole Tall Tale about "backroom deals" with Kesner and Walters was spun by Sorrentino. Smith also has a problem with Mike Williams. Mike Williams sits on the Conservative Committee. The Conservatives in Hamburg voted overwhelmingly against Dick Smith. Dick Smith's ego took a bruise.

Anyone that continues to believe the yarns coming out of Sorrentino must have the IQ of a tree stump.

[j.camareri]

So you want him to announce his back door deals? Wouldn't that negate the point of a back door deal?

PJ--don't bother with Scooter. He's out of his goard.

[NightStalker]

I did not bring up the dems.I said after what Bush did can you trust a republican YES or NO.REMEMBER the body bags.


Yes, I remember the body bags from the World Trade Center , so you think that what G W Bush has done is wrong and that it is OK for civilians to die .

[ritefromrong1949]

what I find absolutely amazing is that you folks have been going on for days about coffee and toast and back door meetings. If you meet in a coffee shop it can't be back door. And of course they probably met! Politicians have been meeting since the Tammany Hall days. That's what politicians do in our system. yet not one person has brought up what the real problem is ( oh and i know you discussed it before and someone who doesn't really want to acknowledge the problem will tell me to go start a new thread) I was told the other day that the retiring chief's pension is in excess of $105,000. If that is the case it was done under the boards nose and apparent implicit approval. And that folks should be the issue. I know a whole bunch of people that don't make that kind of money working full time + and if those figures are even close to correct we should all be ashamed that nothing was done.

[GRANDPOOBA]

Good move by Mr.Smith,and Mr.Quatroche to table the chief's job.Mr.Walters was not to bright with his back door deal.Maybe if Smith,and Quatroche were invited for toast and coffee this would be over.But Walters knew the two are honest men,so he had to do it alone and not get caught BUT he did.Not to bright.

[j.camareri]

Good move by Mr.Smith,and Mr.Quatroche to table the chief's job.Mr.Walters was not to bright with his back door deal.Maybe if Smith,and Quatroche were invited for toast and coffee this would be over.But Walters knew the two are honest men,so he had to do it alone and not get caught BUT he did.Not to bright.

You know what's not "bright"? When someone repeatedly writes "Not to bright," when it should read "not TOO bright." To, too. Different uses.

I can't believe I would even deign to respond to this post, because you're not mentally equipped to debate even the most basic of topics, but I had to make that correction.

By the way, the dead horse has been beaten to death. Get a clue.

[My2cents]

Gee, that would have been illegal as it would constitute a quorum. Not too bright Grandpoopa. By they way your scope of discussion is pathetically limited. Why don't you come up with another way to keep repeating your bs. I guess the belief is that the more you repeat the bs story someone might believe you. We are not morons. Anyway, this whole issue will be resolved soon.

[GRANDPOOBA]

Ok no bright stuff no back door deals just one thing.Why in the world do you defend everything Mr. Walters is saying or doing. Seem as you maybe on his payroll or something is in it for you.Please I don't want to hear about the board,and the police junk why do you defend him?I would vote for him tommrow but you two make him out to be God or something.

[j.camareri]

Ok no bright stuff no back door deals just one thing.Why in the world do you defend everything Mr. Walters is saying or doing. Seem as you maybe on his payroll or something is in it for you.Please I don't want to hear about the board,and the police junk why do you defend him?I would vote for him tommrow but you two make him out to be God or something.

No one on here is making him out to be a deity of any kind. But on this nonexistant, convoluted-contrived-by-Sorrentino issue, it's worth defending. It's a matter of right and wrong. The board has been pulling crap for a L-O-N-G time and has never once had to answer for any of their misdeeds (or at least perceived misdeeds). Here, an editorial is written--based on OPINION--and you take it as gospel and dedicate a great deal of time to spreading your filth. Just as you have defended the board's every move, we are entitled to defend our beliefs.

The problem with you is, you're incapable of reason or logic. You obsessed about Ford Beckwith, you obsessed about George Bush, you've had four usernames on here... we're all sick of it. It's not even so much as sticking up for Walters, as it is shutting you up. You give NOTHING to the discussion.

[GRANDPOOBA]

Gave you a chance to tell why you defend Mr.Walters. Asked you forget the board and all that you coulden't.Still you bring up the board and names you like to use this as a crutch i see hope everyone else does.

[My2cents]

If you would vote for him tomorrow why all the bs. Why make an issue out of a politically motivated attack. Why do I defend him? Because I know about all the bs that he has endured through his first 1 1/2 years. It has been unwarranted and strictly politically motivated to the residents detriment.

[GRANDPOOBA]

My two cents very well said .AS you see J Camareri could not say it without names or the board ..VERY NICE MY TWO CENTS.

[j.camareri]

Gave you a chance to tell why you defend Mr.Walters. Asked you forget the board and all that you coulden't.Still you bring up the board and names you like to use this as a crutch i see hope everyone else does.

This post makes no sense. You ask me why I defend Walters, but per your instructions, I'm not to bring up the board? The ENTIRE reason I defend him is BECAUSE of the board. What part of that don't you get? You cannot discuss one without the other. In case you missed the newsflash, Steven Walters is ON the board. By the way, where was your outcry over the "back door deal" (it's usually "backroom," by the way) when Sorrentino bequeathed Hochul's seat to Dick Smith? You weren't talking about any "back door deal" then. Oh wait. You were too busy obsessing over how Schreckengost got "spanked." Good lord.

[GRANDPOOBA]

My two cents did it right.butto line you failed jcam. AND WHO IS scheckengost hope I spelled it right.

[GRANDPOOBA]

Sorry abot the last one Iwas in a hurry.My two cents good job,JCamareri sorry you failed you used the crutch.You must be related toMr.Walters to defend him that far.And who is Schrekengost?

[bush w.g.]

you are right pooba.they use that old crutch.

[GRANDPOOBA]

Just got a private messege sent to me.Well Well Well seems as J.Camareri is Mrs.Walters now I see why she defends him and uses a crutch everytime she can.

[j.camareri]

Just got a private messege sent to me.Well Well Well seems as J.Camareri is Mrs.Walters now I see why she defends him and uses a crutch everytime she can.

Yeah sure Marty. Believe whatever your heart desires. I could care less who you think I am.

If you're using who one chooses to defend as a basis for one's relation to someone, then perhaps it's only logical I can conclude you are, indeed, Dick Smith's son. Or Tom Quatroche's father. You defend them both so ardently, it only makes sense that you're a relative!

The fact remains, you CANNOT (nor will your cowardly cohorts) defend the actions of the board that I have cited above. I have YET to receive any sort of explanation of the following:

1. Why, when Joe Coggins was given his temporary appointment, had he not taken his exam yet? If that's the standard that's being held for chief and assistant chief now, why was it an acceptable practice only a few years ago?

2. Why do you not feel there was something indecent taking place when Dick Smith was handed the vacant board seat on a silver platter? No interviews were even considered. Yet certain board members INSIST interviews are necessary for police chief.

3. Why do you not feel that it's inappropriate that the town board reappointed their political chairman, Vincent Sorrentino, as town attorney, rather than conducting interviews for a new, bipartisan attorney?

I fully expect a nonsensical response that doesn't address a single issue I've brought up. Maybe you'll continue to call me "Mrs. Walters," and talk some more about toast and coffee. If that's the case, please don't respond, and likewise, inform your split personalities--Scooter, gw_bush and bush_wg--not to respond either.

[GRANDPOOBA]

This is funny unreal who am I .I feel like it's what's my line remember that show.This is like hbo comedy club,who cares about coggins,and the rest of that crap.Istated you defend Mr. Walters like you know him.Then I get aprivate messege and you go bonkers.You say all kinds of names scooter,bush and this bush be for real,It's a real comedy.

[TheBlueEagle]

Pooba and Bush are really Scooter, aren't they?

[GRANDPOOBA]

Did not want to say but the private messege did say now everyone read this.Blue Eagle,and J.Camareri are both the same person who is Mrs.Walters the way they stick together I think the messege is right on.

[TheBlueEagle]

Did not want to say but the private messege did say now everyone read this.Blue Eagle,and J.Camareri are both the same person who is Mrs.Walters the way they stick together I think the messege is right on.

LOL. Beth Walters indeed.

[j.camareri]

Did not want to say but the private messege did say now everyone read this.Blue Eagle,and J.Camareri are both the same person who is Mrs.Walters the way they stick together I think the messege is right on.

BWWHAHAHAHAHA!
That's pretty funny. Because TheBlueEagle is on right now. So it's only reasonable--I've got TWO computers! Yes. I'm Mrs. Walters. So is Blue Eagle. And so is bwilson. But wait. That's not all. This just in... I'm actually Vince Sorrentino. No wait. Martin Lalka. Yes. That is who I am.

It's funny, because My2Cents hit the nail on the head earlier when he said Sorrentino was going to put his crazies on here to try and bombard those fighting the good fight (fighting for justice, against the entrenched politicians--not being one of the masses who believes every single thing we're spoonfed). So now they've apparently employed conspiracy theorists online, telling people who they think people are. This is just delicious!

But let's get back to the subject: WHY won't the Walters Haters address my questions? I'll list them, abbreviated, again, for those who missed them in my previous 20 posts:

1. Why was it okay for Coggins to be appointed temporary chief without a test, but not Kesner?

2. Why didn't the board interview for Kathy Hochul's vacant seat, instead of giving the seat to a career politician who has been in office almost as long as Strom Thurmond was?

3. Why did the board reappoint their chairman Sorrentino town attorney, allowing him to retire, collect FULL benefits and now work on contract for $60,000+ a year? Why not interview? Isn't this what this whole thing is about? Interviewing? Proper procedure?

4. Why did the town board find it acceptable to pull Tom Best's appointment as deputy supervisor, giving him NO notice? And then having the utter, unbelievable gall to say they'd reinstate it if one of them was appointed?

Someone, please answer these questions for me. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you want to come down on Walters, and then show some consistency and come down on the board, too. Their collective behavior over the last several years has been egregious, to say the least.

I will KEEP posting these topics, as well as an abundance of others, so as to ensure some satisfactory debate.

[j.camareri]

LOL. Beth Walters indeed.

You mean you're me? And I'm you? Wait. But I thought you were Dick Smith. Someone PM'd me and told me that TheBlueEagle is actually Dick Smith.

Okay. The jig is up. I'm Oprah!

This whole thing is great, because it encapsulates everything that I've been saying about the Walters Haters: totally incapable of intellectual discourse and unable to dispute facts. Don't like what you're reading? Then you can always resort back to trying to figure out who someone is, to get off topic. People like grandpooba continually give credence to what I write, so to him, I say thank you!

[My2cents]

You mean you're me? And I'm you? Wait. But I thought you were Dick Smith. Someone PM'd me and told me that TheBlueEagle is actually Dick Smith.

He's the Bald Eagle.

[j.camareri]

He's the Bald Eagle.

You guys... what will the Dems do? Blue Eagle, J.camareri, My2Cents, ALL online at the same time? What will that do to their "one-person-is-everyone" theory? Because they couldn't possibly believe that their support is fledgling.

[TheBlueEagle]

We can do it all at the same time because we're capable of magic. I'm descended from a family of witches myself. My grandmothers and great grandmothers all practiced the craft. I'm Harry Potter. My2Cents is Ron Weasly. I'm not gonna call anyone Voldemort lest I be slapped with a lawsuit.

[My2cents]

I just have three computers :)

[j.camareri]

We can do it all at the same time because we're capable of magic. I'm descended from a family of witches myself. My grandmothers and great grandmothers all practiced the craft.

Then you must be looking forward to the Autumnal Equinox, a big holiday for the witches and warlocks among us. :)

[GRANDPOOBA]

OK gigs my name is Mr.Walters

[TheBlueEagle]

OK gigs my name is Mr.Walters

Did you just call yourself Mr. Walters? Because if you did, I get to be Martin Lalka. My first act as Martin Lalka will be to resign from the school board. :rolleyes:

[j.camareri]

Did you just call yourself Mr. Walters? Because if you did, I get to be Martin Lalka. My first act as Martin Lalka will be to resign from the school board. :rolleyes:

I want to be Martin Lalka too! My first act will be to learn to write. By the way--did you get the memo? I'm Professor Snape.

[TheBlueEagle]

I wanna be the Oak Ridge Boys all at once seeing that I'm three people to begin with. That's harmonyyyyyyy!!!!!! Oh yeah!

[GRANDPOOBA]

your all wrong.Since I said my name is Walters I'll resign from being the Supervisor for my back door deal.

[j.camareri]

I wanna be the Oak Ridge Boys all at once seeing that I'm three people to begin with. That's harmonyyyyyyy!!!!!! Oh yeah!

You could also be: The Bee Gees. The Andrew Sisters. Peter, Paul & Mary. Or the Jacksons--minus Tito and Jermaine.

[TheBlueEagle]

Oooh oooh oooh! I pick Peter Paul and Mary! Isn't it the week of Puff the Magic Dragon?!

[TheBlueEagle]

your all wrong.Since I said my name is Walters I'll resign from being the Supervisor for my back door deal.

Back door deal where Scooter? At Kettles?